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Judging by my downvotes I think there's a few on here that fell for it too. The only people I ever saw talking about hydroxychloroquine here in the UK were the

Judging by my downvotes I think there's a few on here that fell for it too. The only people I ever saw talking about hydroxychloroquine here in the UK were the "chemtrails" crowd, and they were falling for every scam going.

photodegradable 3y ago
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zabzonk 3y ago
i was in hospital in the UK at the height of the epidemic (for other reasons) and nobody ever suggested any treatment except immunisation.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Here in the US, nurses were pretty prone to believing in snake oil for covid. They're the same people who have always been prone to MLMs so....
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Should be Medical Lies and Manipulations
  - zabzonk 3y ago
    at least in the uk, nurses don't prescribe
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      Nurses don't have to be able to legally prescribe to give you off the record advice and seem like "medically aware" people to those around them. So many people take Nurses as medical gospel even though plenty of nurses don't really take their teachings as ground truth, and they aren't exactly taking immunology anyway, with very little foundational knowledge in a Nursing degree program in terms of how medicine works, as well as less rigorous statistics than your average high schooler. What they do learn is how all your bones and muscles and organs work and work together, and a bunch of microbio (so they would understand things like how sodium and potassium affect muscle function), and introductory classes on human psychology, and classes about how drugs interact. Notable things nurses in this program don't learn that are relevant to COVID: Immunology, so nurses should be expected to know roughly as much as the average person about how your immune system works, and how diseases spread, and how they evolve, genetics, how to write (and read) scientific papers, enough statistics to understand what might be problematic in a scientific paper, accounting (so many myths came from or through nurses that "hospitals are counting covid deaths wrong for money", while they could never seem to explain how that worked). Nursing is not pre-med.
      - zabzonk 3y ago
        > Nurses don't have to be able to legally prescribe to give you off the record advice and seem like "medically aware" people to those around them sure, the can do that, and get sacked for malpractice while they are at it.
    - NikkiA 3y ago
      Yes they do, they're called 'Nurse Practicioners' and have become the primary prescription interface for most group practices in the last few years. https://www.rcn.org.uk/about-us/our-influencing-work/policy-briefings/POL-1512 https://www.rcn.org.uk/about-us/our-influencing-work/policy-...
      - zabzonk 3y ago
        interesting. i have a visiting cardiac nurse who checks out my bp etc. and then suggests drugs to my gp who does the actual prescribing. i think having two independent professionals prescribing would be somewhat dangerous.
NikkiA 3y ago
There's a disturbing amount of conspiracy mindedness on HN, pretty much always has been.

photodegradable 3y ago

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zabzonk 3y ago

i was in hospital in the UK at the height of the epidemic (for other reasons) and nobody ever suggested any treatment except immunisation.

mrguyorama 3y ago
Here in the US, nurses were pretty prone to believing in snake oil for covid. They're the same people who have always been prone to MLMs so....
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Should be Medical Lies and Manipulations
- zabzonk 3y ago
  at least in the uk, nurses don't prescribe
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Nurses don't have to be able to legally prescribe to give you off the record advice and seem like "medically aware" people to those around them. So many people take Nurses as medical gospel even though plenty of nurses don't really take their teachings as ground truth, and they aren't exactly taking immunology anyway, with very little foundational knowledge in a Nursing degree program in terms of how medicine works, as well as less rigorous statistics than your average high schooler. What they do learn is how all your bones and muscles and organs work and work together, and a bunch of microbio (so they would understand things like how sodium and potassium affect muscle function), and introductory classes on human psychology, and classes about how drugs interact. Notable things nurses in this program don't learn that are relevant to COVID: Immunology, so nurses should be expected to know roughly as much as the average person about how your immune system works, and how diseases spread, and how they evolve, genetics, how to write (and read) scientific papers, enough statistics to understand what might be problematic in a scientific paper, accounting (so many myths came from or through nurses that "hospitals are counting covid deaths wrong for money", while they could never seem to explain how that worked). Nursing is not pre-med.
    - zabzonk 3y ago
      > Nurses don't have to be able to legally prescribe to give you off the record advice and seem like "medically aware" people to those around them sure, the can do that, and get sacked for malpractice while they are at it.
  - NikkiA 3y ago
    Yes they do, they're called 'Nurse Practicioners' and have become the primary prescription interface for most group practices in the last few years. https://www.rcn.org.uk/about-us/our-influencing-work/policy-briefings/POL-1512 https://www.rcn.org.uk/about-us/our-influencing-work/policy-...
    - zabzonk 3y ago
      interesting. i have a visiting cardiac nurse who checks out my bp etc. and then suggests drugs to my gp who does the actual prescribing. i think having two independent professionals prescribing would be somewhat dangerous.

NikkiA 3y ago

There's a disturbing amount of conspiracy mindedness on HN, pretty much always has been.