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It's a nice and simple world view I suppose to characterize environmentalists as (a bit!) mentally ill. I don't see how you can pass it for discussion here, tho
by drekk 3y ago
It's a nice and simple world view I suppose to characterize environmentalists as (a bit!) mentally ill. I don't see how you can pass it for discussion here, though.
I mean clearly environmentalists choose to exempt private jets and have never made any comments about how the wealthiest 1% is responsible for 40% of lifestyle CO2 emissions. They just twiddle their cartoon mustaches thinking of ways to make energy and homes more expensive for honest red-blooded god-fearing blue-collar workers. It has nothing to do with the political clout and acumen of the class that can afford flying in a private jet I suppose.
The solution is really, painfully simple. Meat is subsidized by not factoring in environmental externalities. Price it accordingly. Factory farming didn't come about because of environmentalists. Those animals are suffering because people still think meat is natural, normal, necessary, and nice. They're suffering because consumers want their flesh at the lowest possible price and we've abstracted out all the unpleasant business so it can be as inhumane as necessary to squeeze out a couple more lbs/$. Are we really going to act shocked when a player like Tyson swoops in and makes an economy of scale out of mammalian suffering? Nah, we'll blame environmentalists for the brutal and short lives of farmed chattel.
As for how much damage cattle can do while grazing, the literature is out there for you to read https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00267-022-01633-8 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00267-022-01633-8
- verisimi 3y agoI think most people are mentally ill. Living one's life in models and ideas, ideas that are mis-characterisations of natural reality, despite the evidence of one's own experience, is especially hard to take. My point about the exemption of private jets, is that the environment is a political control lever. Its about power. Talking about killing the earth is merely a convenient mechanism to help the medicine go down. The earth will not be any better at the end of this process. We will get lots of TV programs about how the earth is being saved etc. Do you remember hearing about how the water in Venice improved during lockdowns? That sort of thing. So will pay much more, in loss of freedom and cash, but we will get TV programs to tell us it was worth it. Carbon taxes - the means of pricing externalities - are a further governmental control structure. So, you have government saying 'such-and-such is a problem' and the fix is 'extra taxes'. Don't forget in my example, the farmer is already subsidised by the government. With subsidies and control for "externalities" - how one can say that free market forces have anything much to do with the produce we get, I don't know! PS - I think your trust in governance and academia - as seems evident in your comment - is misplaced. Everything operates on money - what studies are undertaken, where money is invested, what information is publicised. The well is already poisoned - we are all simply being washed in the media spin. Recognising the truth or reality of our situation will not come from a study or a politician.
- salawat 3y agoMental illness is in and of itself a socio-political construct. To assert the label of being "mentally ill" on another is an attempt to disqualify their viewpoint from consideration in the public forum due to some form of physical defect rendering the speaker unfit to participate. As it turns out, controlling the goalposts of "mental illness" is to wield an incredibly powerful docio-political tool. Anyone resorting to claims thereof I instantly downgrade heavily in consideration, and begin immediate adverse treatment barring extreme self-evident behavior on the part of the accused. Behavior that comes out to more than "embracing a viewpoint I might not like".