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Let’s Stop Pretending College Degrees Don’t Matter

14 points by fortran77 3y ago

mindaslab 3y ago
Ya, let's start pretending college degree matters.
- swavihavi 3y ago
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version_five 3y ago
the skills-based hiring movement may actually amount to little more than populist virtue signaling Huh? I think the whole article represents establishment pushback to people not playing their game: university is becoming irrelevant because it's become universal and is more focused on administration than education. It's that "law" about metrics being perverted once you make them a metric. But the administrative class will fight tooth and nail to try and keep their power, so we get article like this.
potbelly83 3y ago
Best to stick with the cooking/crossword section with the nytimes...
jjk166 3y ago
I'd hire a skilled person without a degree over a degreed person without skill any day of the week, and I'd look down on anyone who did the reverse.
taraharris 3y ago
Ok, so we need to get laws passed making it illegal to discriminate against candidates on the basis of educational background.
- Bostonian 3y ago
  No, if employers are needlessly using criteria they should be outcompeted by companies who don't. Like it or not, there are large differences between high school graduates and non-graduates in this country, on average.
omscs99 3y ago
Why even bother getting a degree in journalism if all you’re gonna do is churn out blog posts for a living? Why even call it journalism then? Legal protection or something? Let’s Stop Pretending Journalism Degrees Matter - frankly if all you’re gonna do is sit in some nyc office and shit out the same platitudes, why should I pay for it when I can find the same fecal matter online for free?
- areoform 3y ago
  Two quick things, journalism is important. And most journalists write factual stories not opinion pieces. This piece wasn't written by a journalist. It was written by a "Higher Ed" consultant, https://education.virginia.edu/about/directory/ben-wildavsky https://education.virginia.edu/about/directory/ben-wildavsky
Bostonian 3y ago
I don't necessarily agree with the article, but I wonder why the comments here are so hostile. I do wish employers of high school graduates were willing and legally allowed to consider SAT/ACT and AP exam scores in addition to high school GPAs in hiring. It's my impression that very few do. Has anyone had a job where they not only confirmed that you graduated from high school but looked at your transcript? Since the high school record, other than graduating or not (a low bar), is ignored, a college degree is still a way to signal general intelligence, which is largely why I am sending my child to a "fancy" college in a week.
KJoe 3y ago
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14 points by fortran77 3y ago

mindaslab 3y ago

Ya, let's start pretending college degree matters.

swavihavi 3y ago
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version_five 3y ago

the skills-based hiring movement may actually amount to little more than populist virtue signaling Huh? I think the whole article represents establishment pushback to people not playing their game: university is becoming irrelevant because it's become universal and is more focused on administration than education. It's that "law" about metrics being perverted once you make them a metric. But the administrative class will fight tooth and nail to try and keep their power, so we get article like this.

potbelly83 3y ago

Best to stick with the cooking/crossword section with the nytimes...

jjk166 3y ago

I'd hire a skilled person without a degree over a degreed person without skill any day of the week, and I'd look down on anyone who did the reverse.

taraharris 3y ago

Ok, so we need to get laws passed making it illegal to discriminate against candidates on the basis of educational background.

Bostonian 3y ago
No, if employers are needlessly using criteria they should be outcompeted by companies who don't. Like it or not, there are large differences between high school graduates and non-graduates in this country, on average.

omscs99 3y ago

Why even bother getting a degree in journalism if all you’re gonna do is churn out blog posts for a living? Why even call it journalism then? Legal protection or something? Let’s Stop Pretending Journalism Degrees Matter - frankly if all you’re gonna do is sit in some nyc office and shit out the same platitudes, why should I pay for it when I can find the same fecal matter online for free?

areoform 3y ago
Two quick things, journalism is important. And most journalists write factual stories not opinion pieces. This piece wasn't written by a journalist. It was written by a "Higher Ed" consultant, https://education.virginia.edu/about/directory/ben-wildavsky https://education.virginia.edu/about/directory/ben-wildavsky

Bostonian 3y ago

I don't necessarily agree with the article, but I wonder why the comments here are so hostile. I do wish employers of high school graduates were willing and legally allowed to consider SAT/ACT and AP exam scores in addition to high school GPAs in hiring. It's my impression that very few do. Has anyone had a job where they not only confirmed that you graduated from high school but looked at your transcript? Since the high school record, other than graduating or not (a low bar), is ignored, a college degree is still a way to signal general intelligence, which is largely why I am sending my child to a "fancy" college in a week.

KJoe 3y ago

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