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There's an elephant in the room here, and it's Adobe. The author's put forward a lot of valid criticisms of the breakpoint-based approach & also provided a rea

There's an elephant in the room here, and it's Adobe. The author's put forward a lot of valid criticisms of the breakpoint-based approach & also provided a really good guide to doing proper web design, but what's skipped over is that their guide only works for developer-designers, & won't fit the workflow of a large proportion (majority?) of people doing visual design for web. Those designers are have backgrounds in multimedia or have academic backgrounds in design-forward colleges with extremely poor html-css modules. And their tool is Creative Suite - largely because Adobe has a stranglehold on design education. The likes of Sketch have shaken things up somewhat so we at least have XD, and slightly fewer people are designing entire websites in Photoshop & Illustrator alone, but even so - the ability of tools like XD/Figma to allow the designer to model their work fluidly in a way that matches web viewports is not mature, not least because Adobe have been historically hostile to the idea (XD being a very reluctant response to new competitors after already killing off Fireworks).

madeofpalk 3y ago
> and slightly fewer people are designing entire websites in Photoshop & Illustrator alone Across the wide industry, sure, but I haven't worked with a designer who uses Photoshop in 10 years... Granted, I'm in my own bubble, but over a varity of gigs it's been Sketch, and now universally figma.
- lucideer 3y ago
  All designers I currently work with are 100% figma, but I work for bigcorp where things are a bit more formalised & designer friends working in the startup world are much more on the multitool/Adobe wagon. Even so though, Figma, while an improvement, is still not where tools should be in this regard. It's a compromise between what's expected by Adobe-educated users and how things actually work on the web.
agos 3y ago
I've started doing frontend work back in 2008, and I immediately noticed the friction with designers coming from Adobe tools and their equivalents. It's disheartening to see that 15 years later the problem is still there

madeofpalk 3y ago

> and slightly fewer people are designing entire websites in Photoshop & Illustrator alone Across the wide industry, sure, but I haven't worked with a designer who uses Photoshop in 10 years... Granted, I'm in my own bubble, but over a varity of gigs it's been Sketch, and now universally figma.

lucideer 3y ago
All designers I currently work with are 100% figma, but I work for bigcorp where things are a bit more formalised & designer friends working in the startup world are much more on the multitool/Adobe wagon. Even so though, Figma, while an improvement, is still not where tools should be in this regard. It's a compromise between what's expected by Adobe-educated users and how things actually work on the web.

agos 3y ago

I've started doing frontend work back in 2008, and I immediately noticed the friction with designers coming from Adobe tools and their equivalents. It's disheartening to see that 15 years later the problem is still there