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Yes but it might make their claims ring more hollow. The purpose isn't to convince the diehard zealots, it's to convince the people that might be on the fence a

Yes but it might make their claims ring more hollow. The purpose isn't to convince the diehard zealots, it's to convince the people that might be on the fence and could see it go either way. Maybe Joe down the street isn't very much into politics, but he's been hearing all about these electronic voting machines being the source of fraud, and he know it sounds unreasonable, but it does introduce some doubt, especially when he finds out that no one knows what's in them and that people can access em "over the internets", it's enough out of his wheelhouse to get him wondering.

ceejayoz 3y ago
> Yes but it might make their claims ring more hollow. It might do the opposite; "see, they finally admitted it's a problem!"
- splintercell 3y ago
  And this is how the Democrats have been painted in the corner. Presuming there was no problem: - Not doing any 'improvements' would result more of what is going on right now, an inability to prove the otherside wrong, and doubling down on the (near ridiculous) claim that it was the 'most secure election of all times'. Presuming there were issues: - Doing anything to improve them would mean that the one election they truly really wanted to win (i.e. defeating Trump), they will be accused of finally admitting that there were problems. - Which means from their perspective, keep doubling down on the claim that it was the most secure election of all times - OTOH if you didn't care that much about defeating Trump, and truly want there to be improvements if they are needed, then the Democrats claiming that these were the 'most secure elections of all times' just makes you start not believing it
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    Democrats are exceedingly good at letting Republicans do the painting. In the real world, though, the good tools we already do have are being removed because of conspiracy theories. For example: https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-conspiracies-registration-trump-republicans-23f0a2f89b6c8b53c4c7b89e2bdc82af https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-conspiracies... > Earlier this month, Republican election officials from Florida, Missouri and West Virginia said they planned to withdraw from the group, joining Louisiana and Alabama. Former President Donald Trump, on social media, has called on every Republican-led state to leave, characterizing it as a “terrible Voter Registration System that ’pumps the rolls’ for Democrats and does nothing to clean them up.”

ceejayoz 3y ago

> Yes but it might make their claims ring more hollow. It might do the opposite; "see, they finally admitted it's a problem!"

splintercell 3y ago
And this is how the Democrats have been painted in the corner. Presuming there was no problem: - Not doing any 'improvements' would result more of what is going on right now, an inability to prove the otherside wrong, and doubling down on the (near ridiculous) claim that it was the 'most secure election of all times'. Presuming there were issues: - Doing anything to improve them would mean that the one election they truly really wanted to win (i.e. defeating Trump), they will be accused of finally admitting that there were problems. - Which means from their perspective, keep doubling down on the claim that it was the most secure election of all times - OTOH if you didn't care that much about defeating Trump, and truly want there to be improvements if they are needed, then the Democrats claiming that these were the 'most secure elections of all times' just makes you start not believing it
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Democrats are exceedingly good at letting Republicans do the painting. In the real world, though, the good tools we already do have are being removed because of conspiracy theories. For example: https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-conspiracies-registration-trump-republicans-23f0a2f89b6c8b53c4c7b89e2bdc82af https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-conspiracies... > Earlier this month, Republican election officials from Florida, Missouri and West Virginia said they planned to withdraw from the group, joining Louisiana and Alabama. Former President Donald Trump, on social media, has called on every Republican-led state to leave, characterizing it as a “terrible Voter Registration System that ’pumps the rolls’ for Democrats and does nothing to clean them up.”