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I am curious what you think could happen. I did a lot of looking after all the allegations and all the lawsuits. It is remarkably secure today, all the lawsui

I am curious what you think could happen. I did a lot of looking after all the allegations and all the lawsuits. It is remarkably secure today, all the lawsuis that have been filed, etc. and nothing was found. Where do you think the vulnerabilities are that can be exploited?

codr7 3y ago
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- sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
  Nothing was found by courts. Or governments. Or the media. Or anyone, really. Put up proof that something was off or STFU. I said the same thing to myself and many others when there were a few cries of voter fraud after the 2016 election. Those cries died down within a month or so of the election because the loser wasn't actively amplifying that position.
  - codr7 3y ago
    Doesn't it bother you even a little bit that all of the so called "investigators" are in the same boat? I don't have proof, that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to speak. As a general rule of thumb; whenever you get terribly upset that someone else has a different opinion, it's time to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
    - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
      >Doesn't it bother you even a little bit that all of the so called "investigators" are in the same boat? I don't follow this sentence at all. Can you be a bit clearer about what you mean here?
      - codr7 3y ago
        None of these so called "investigators" were even close to objective.
        sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
        I don't see a conspiracy spanning every level of government and the media, I guess? It seems like something close to that would be required for so many people from so many different political backgrounds to look and find nothing. Or maybe you're defining "not objective" as "doesn't produce the result I wanted"...
        codr7 3y ago
        It's a theory, an alternative explanation, we are allowed to have those without evidence and it's OK to have multiple competing explanations. A better question would be: Why are you so desperate to believe one thing or the other?
        sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
        At some point that just devolves into one person pointing at a dog and saying "that's a dog" and the other saying "nu'uh it's a cat". Cat guy isn't doing anything illegal but they're still making a claim without evidence and refusing to let go of the claim in the face of contrary evidence. I'm genuinely worried about my country's ability to recover from what the Big Lie is doing to it, so I do care about the topic, and I do try to argue for sanity and truth where I can.
sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
This is why I imagine it was so weird to be Brad Raffensperger during / immediately after the 2020 election. He ran for GA Sec of State on a platform of election security. He took actions he felt were in pursuit of that goal. He was proud of what he had done and the security of Georgia's elections. He supported Trump in the 2020 election. I am not in agreement with some of his approaches but by all accounts he was passionate about his role and generally did his job of making elections happen. Then his preferred candidate loses. The loser tosses accusations at Raffensperger and friends ranging from incompetence to outright malice. The loser claims the systems Raffensperger has been knee deep in the previous two years are insecure, suspect, compromised. The loser puts personal pressure on Raffensperger to "find" votes. That had to be one hell of a "what did I do to deserve this?" feeling throughout that time frame.

codr7 3y ago

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sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
Nothing was found by courts. Or governments. Or the media. Or anyone, really. Put up proof that something was off or STFU. I said the same thing to myself and many others when there were a few cries of voter fraud after the 2016 election. Those cries died down within a month or so of the election because the loser wasn't actively amplifying that position.
- codr7 3y ago
  Doesn't it bother you even a little bit that all of the so called "investigators" are in the same boat? I don't have proof, that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to speak. As a general rule of thumb; whenever you get terribly upset that someone else has a different opinion, it's time to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
    >Doesn't it bother you even a little bit that all of the so called "investigators" are in the same boat? I don't follow this sentence at all. Can you be a bit clearer about what you mean here?
    - codr7 3y ago
      None of these so called "investigators" were even close to objective.
      - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
        I don't see a conspiracy spanning every level of government and the media, I guess? It seems like something close to that would be required for so many people from so many different political backgrounds to look and find nothing. Or maybe you're defining "not objective" as "doesn't produce the result I wanted"...
        codr7 3y ago
        It's a theory, an alternative explanation, we are allowed to have those without evidence and it's OK to have multiple competing explanations. A better question would be: Why are you so desperate to believe one thing or the other?
        sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
        At some point that just devolves into one person pointing at a dog and saying "that's a dog" and the other saying "nu'uh it's a cat". Cat guy isn't doing anything illegal but they're still making a claim without evidence and refusing to let go of the claim in the face of contrary evidence. I'm genuinely worried about my country's ability to recover from what the Big Lie is doing to it, so I do care about the topic, and I do try to argue for sanity and truth where I can.

sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago

This is why I imagine it was so weird to be Brad Raffensperger during / immediately after the 2020 election. He ran for GA Sec of State on a platform of election security. He took actions he felt were in pursuit of that goal. He was proud of what he had done and the security of Georgia's elections. He supported Trump in the 2020 election. I am not in agreement with some of his approaches but by all accounts he was passionate about his role and generally did his job of making elections happen. Then his preferred candidate loses. The loser tosses accusations at Raffensperger and friends ranging from incompetence to outright malice. The loser claims the systems Raffensperger has been knee deep in the previous two years are insecure, suspect, compromised. The loser puts personal pressure on Raffensperger to "find" votes. That had to be one hell of a "what did I do to deserve this?" feeling throughout that time frame.