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Pretty much this, some countries are allowed to change visas while in Germany, so you can get married in Denmark, which is an easy affair and doesn’t take much.

Pretty much this, some countries are allowed to change visas while in Germany, so you can get married in Denmark, which is an easy affair and doesn’t take much. Then you go to Germany, and the marriage is accepted there, and you can now change it to a spousal visa. Instead, she had to swear 3 times (twice in writing, once in person at the civil registry) that she’s not married either ritually, customary, or by law. Among other fun documents we needed.

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
What's the significance of Denmark in this context? Why not just get married in Germany?
- jlokier 3y ago
  They have to apply for a visa/license to marry, which can be denied or take a long time or require whatever documents the authorities want, and I have the impression it requires them to leave the country too, before they are able to get married in Germany, but if they can travel and get married in Denmark without such difficulties then Germany automatically accepts the marriage. Many countries don't allow non-citizens to marry citizens without an onerous administrative obstacle and/or a long time delay, and possible refusal. Unlike business travel visas, in some countries lack of formal permission prevents a marriage from having legal marriage status, so it's not like you can just quietly ignore the requirement. Occasionally two people who want to marry can't do so by any route in either of their home counties.
  - Semaphor 3y ago
    It’s less the denial, time it takes, it’s more that Germany requires a lot more documents. My favorite is still "Befreiung von der Beibringung des Ehefähigkeitszeugnisses" (Exemption from providing the certificate of marriageability) just because it’s such a mouthful and sounds crazy ;) We could have gotten married with her here on a normal tourist visa, that wouldn’t have been an issue. But we didn’t want her to have to go back to change visas afterward, so we got married with a marriage visa (which converts to a spousal visa automatically)
- Semaphor 3y ago
  As I wrote: > so you can get married in Denmark, which is an easy affair and doesn’t take much Denmark has next to no requirements for the marriage, they even advertise easy marriages. Germany has … a lot ;)

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago

What's the significance of Denmark in this context? Why not just get married in Germany?

jlokier 3y ago
They have to apply for a visa/license to marry, which can be denied or take a long time or require whatever documents the authorities want, and I have the impression it requires them to leave the country too, before they are able to get married in Germany, but if they can travel and get married in Denmark without such difficulties then Germany automatically accepts the marriage. Many countries don't allow non-citizens to marry citizens without an onerous administrative obstacle and/or a long time delay, and possible refusal. Unlike business travel visas, in some countries lack of formal permission prevents a marriage from having legal marriage status, so it's not like you can just quietly ignore the requirement. Occasionally two people who want to marry can't do so by any route in either of their home counties.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  It’s less the denial, time it takes, it’s more that Germany requires a lot more documents. My favorite is still "Befreiung von der Beibringung des Ehefähigkeitszeugnisses" (Exemption from providing the certificate of marriageability) just because it’s such a mouthful and sounds crazy ;) We could have gotten married with her here on a normal tourist visa, that wouldn’t have been an issue. But we didn’t want her to have to go back to change visas afterward, so we got married with a marriage visa (which converts to a spousal visa automatically)
Semaphor 3y ago
As I wrote: > so you can get married in Denmark, which is an easy affair and doesn’t take much Denmark has next to no requirements for the marriage, they even advertise easy marriages. Germany has … a lot ;)