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meanwhile our new dishwasher takes between two and four SECONDS from pressing the power button to showing something on the display

by abwizz 3y ago

moring 3y ago
But you still bought this one and not one of the alternatives that start faster... which is part of the reason things get built this way.
- Narretz 3y ago
  Unfortunately stuff like boot time / time to interactive isn't in the specifications. You have to check user reviews, and not everybody cares about this.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  I doubt this is an absolute requirement. Would I choose the faster booting dishwasher among a set of otherwise identical ones? Sure. Would I pay more for it to boot faster? It depends. €10? Sure. 100? Nah. Plus, as the sibling poster says, you usually don't know this before you first start to use it, which means it's already been delivered, connected, and everything.
  - Shaanie 3y ago
    Would you really pay $10 for your dishwasher to boot in 1s instead of 4s? I absolutely wouldn't. Maybe $1, but even that is pushing it.
    - jusssi 3y ago
      For something that's going to annoy you daily for the next 10+ years? I'd definitely pay $10. I'd pay another $10 for the dishwasher to remember the program selection instead of always offering the 4+ hours eco program (which I believe is required by some regulation to be the default). I already paid $100 more for 2dB less, according to the spec. No regrets.
      - vladvasiliu 3y ago
        I'd say it depends on how long it takes to boot up. Fortunately, my dishwasher boots up instantly. If it takes a few seconds, sure it's annoying, but you can work around that. Say press the on button, then check the detergent is in place, etc, then press start. If it's some ridiculous length, like several minutes, I'd probably only buy that crap at a steep discount. > which I believe is required by some regulation to be the default Huh. This must be recent-ish. My parents' dishwasher has a rotary button to choose the program, which stays put as long as the little grandchildren don't mess with it..
        jusssi 3y ago
        Found it: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2019.315.01.0267.01.ENG&toc=OJ:L:2019:315:TOC https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:... > From 1 March 2021, household dishwashers shall provide an eco programme meeting the following requirements: > (a) this programme shall be: [...] set as the default programme for household dishwashers equipped with automatic programme selection or any function maintaining the selection of a programme, or, if there is no automatic programme selection, available for direct selection without the need for any other selection such as a specific temperature or load; Ours was bought in late 2020, but manufacturers probably take a head start with implementation whenever they renew their models.
    - bluGill 3y ago
      If consumers cared it wouldn't cost anything. They would just do it.
- abwizz 3y ago
  came with the house it's inferior to our old one, which was from the 90s and still worked, in other aspects too, most annoyingly cleaning performance. i guess it uses less water thou
- maccard 3y ago
  I don't think I've ever read a dishwasher review that talks about time to interactivity. How do I know which of the 242 dishwashers available[0] in my online retailer staarts in under a second? [0] https://ao.com/l/standard_dishwashers/1/21-23/ https://ao.com/l/standard_dishwashers/1/21-23/

meanwhile our new dishwasher takes between two and four SECONDS from pressing the power button to showing something on the display

by abwizz 3y ago

meanwhile our new dishwasher takes between two and four SECONDS from pressing the power button to showing something on the display

moring 3y ago

But you still bought this one and not one of the alternatives that start faster... which is part of the reason things get built this way.

Narretz 3y ago
Unfortunately stuff like boot time / time to interactive isn't in the specifications. You have to check user reviews, and not everybody cares about this.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
I doubt this is an absolute requirement. Would I choose the faster booting dishwasher among a set of otherwise identical ones? Sure. Would I pay more for it to boot faster? It depends. €10? Sure. 100? Nah. Plus, as the sibling poster says, you usually don't know this before you first start to use it, which means it's already been delivered, connected, and everything.
- Shaanie 3y ago
  Would you really pay $10 for your dishwasher to boot in 1s instead of 4s? I absolutely wouldn't. Maybe $1, but even that is pushing it.
  - jusssi 3y ago
    For something that's going to annoy you daily for the next 10+ years? I'd definitely pay $10. I'd pay another $10 for the dishwasher to remember the program selection instead of always offering the 4+ hours eco program (which I believe is required by some regulation to be the default). I already paid $100 more for 2dB less, according to the spec. No regrets.
    - vladvasiliu 3y ago
      I'd say it depends on how long it takes to boot up. Fortunately, my dishwasher boots up instantly. If it takes a few seconds, sure it's annoying, but you can work around that. Say press the on button, then check the detergent is in place, etc, then press start. If it's some ridiculous length, like several minutes, I'd probably only buy that crap at a steep discount. > which I believe is required by some regulation to be the default Huh. This must be recent-ish. My parents' dishwasher has a rotary button to choose the program, which stays put as long as the little grandchildren don't mess with it..
      - jusssi 3y ago
        Found it: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2019.315.01.0267.01.ENG&toc=OJ:L:2019:315:TOC https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:... > From 1 March 2021, household dishwashers shall provide an eco programme meeting the following requirements: > (a) this programme shall be: [...] set as the default programme for household dishwashers equipped with automatic programme selection or any function maintaining the selection of a programme, or, if there is no automatic programme selection, available for direct selection without the need for any other selection such as a specific temperature or load; Ours was bought in late 2020, but manufacturers probably take a head start with implementation whenever they renew their models.
  - bluGill 3y ago
    If consumers cared it wouldn't cost anything. They would just do it.
abwizz 3y ago
came with the house it's inferior to our old one, which was from the 90s and still worked, in other aspects too, most annoyingly cleaning performance. i guess it uses less water thou
maccard 3y ago
I don't think I've ever read a dishwasher review that talks about time to interactivity. How do I know which of the 242 dishwashers available[0] in my online retailer staarts in under a second? [0] https://ao.com/l/standard_dishwashers/1/21-23/ https://ao.com/l/standard_dishwashers/1/21-23/