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It's designed to make future linux easier to run out of the box on Mac silicon, not really intended to be run as linux in a VM. If you want vms, use UTM https:/

by _joel 3y ago

It's designed to make future linux easier to run out of the box on Mac silicon, not really intended to be run as linux in a VM. If you want vms, use UTM https://mac.getutm.app/ https://mac.getutm.app/

pxc 3y ago
Tart is also very cool. It's not F/OSS but it is source-available and its license is liberal about non-commercial and small-scale commercial use: https://github.com/cirruslabs/tart https://github.com/cirruslabs/tart The very cool thing about Tart is how it uses OCI for OS images, so you can use your existing image registry infrastructure to host and pull down OS images. Cilicon is a compatible F/OSS clone that currently only supports a subset of that functionality: https://github.com/traderepublic/Cilicon https://github.com/traderepublic/Cilicon These are more CI-oriented but I like how that makes it easy to manage state with them. If you're focused on Linux VMs and maybe not on GUI stuff (although I'm sure you can make that work), Lima seems to be the go-to in the user 'community', as it were: https://github.com/lima-vm/lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima If you use ARM guests on Apple Silicon, you should get good perf just like with stuff in the OP. (Like UTM, Lima is based on QEMU.)
- _joel 3y ago
  Yes, played with Tart, forgot about it actually until you mentioned it again and not heard of the F/OSS one, so thanks for that :)
chaxor 3y ago
You mean qemu. Utm is qemu, but they just removed the open source part. So it's just definitely worse.
- robin_reala 3y ago
  UTM is open source too though: https://github.com/utmapp/UTM#license https://github.com/utmapp/UTM#license
- _joel 3y ago
  You can use UTM with Apple's Virtualisation backend too, have been for a while and works fine for me https://docs.getutm.app/settings-apple/settings-apple/ https://docs.getutm.app/settings-apple/settings-apple/

by _joel 3y ago

pxc 3y ago

Tart is also very cool. It's not F/OSS but it is source-available and its license is liberal about non-commercial and small-scale commercial use: https://github.com/cirruslabs/tart https://github.com/cirruslabs/tart The very cool thing about Tart is how it uses OCI for OS images, so you can use your existing image registry infrastructure to host and pull down OS images. Cilicon is a compatible F/OSS clone that currently only supports a subset of that functionality: https://github.com/traderepublic/Cilicon https://github.com/traderepublic/Cilicon These are more CI-oriented but I like how that makes it easy to manage state with them. If you're focused on Linux VMs and maybe not on GUI stuff (although I'm sure you can make that work), Lima seems to be the go-to in the user 'community', as it were: https://github.com/lima-vm/lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima If you use ARM guests on Apple Silicon, you should get good perf just like with stuff in the OP. (Like UTM, Lima is based on QEMU.)

_joel 3y ago
Yes, played with Tart, forgot about it actually until you mentioned it again and not heard of the F/OSS one, so thanks for that :)

chaxor 3y ago

You mean qemu. Utm is qemu, but they just removed the open source part. So it's just definitely worse.

robin_reala 3y ago
UTM is open source too though: https://github.com/utmapp/UTM#license https://github.com/utmapp/UTM#license
_joel 3y ago
You can use UTM with Apple's Virtualisation backend too, have been for a while and works fine for me https://docs.getutm.app/settings-apple/settings-apple/ https://docs.getutm.app/settings-apple/settings-apple/