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"We are living with covid" is no more actionable an observation than "we are living." People often, and you seem to, mean it as just carry on as if it weren't t
by giraffe_lady 3y ago
"We are living with covid" is no more actionable an observation than "we are living." People often, and you seem to, mean it as just carry on as if it weren't there. But "living with covid" could well mean masking, universal healthcare, paid sick time, building code changes around air circulation, mandatory testing and time out of school or work when ill with it.
- gloryjulio 3y agoLiving with COVID with effective vaccines is totally different from without effective vaccines and ongoing extra death. Sorry what is your point?
- AgentOrange1234 3y agoVaccines are only one preventative tool we can use. We are hardly even using them (what is it, ~17% of us even bothered to get the bivalent shot?) All the other stuff (masking, airflow, quarantining, etc) are additional tools we could also choose to use, if we cared about extra death.
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- dang 3y agoIf you continue to break the site guidelines like this, we will ban you. We've had to warn you many times already. This is not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- flanked-evergl 3y ago> "We are living with covid" is no more actionable an observation than "we are living." Why does it have to be actionable?
- aftbit 3y agoOr it could mean that we carry on as if we were living with the flu, like back in early 2019. I don't really understand the point of your comment. If you want to argue for better healthcare, paid sick time, etc etc, don't do it from a COVID-centric point of view, but instead focus on the benefits that would fall on everyone who is sick. IMO the pandemic potential of flu is still more serious than the coronaviruses.
- 9dev 3y agoWell it could, but it shouldn’t. There is no rational reason to restrain society in such a drastic manner for unclear benefits.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoRead the list of changes I'm talking about here. You're making kind of a "what if we made a better world for nothing" argument don't you think?
- colpabar 3y agoBut was anyone with the power to enact these changes talking about them at all? I’ve read about these changes but only on blogs. If we go back into covid mode it’ll most likely just mean masks and lockdowns, which nobody wants.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoBecause these chnages are costly for the business interests those people mostly represent. They will have to be forced. But that's no reason to limit our political/public health imagination to the realm of "lockdowns or nothing."