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Coal burning has increased in Germany, even more since the russian gas crisis (resulting from the Ukraine War).

_fizz_buzz_ 3y ago
This is actually not true (or was only very briefly true) [1] Germany has added a lot of renewables over the last couple years. And more than compensated their nuclear plants, which only played a minor role in Germany's electricity production at that point anyway. Of course Germany could have reduced the CO2 output even more if the nuclear plants hadn't been turned off. However, when the discussion heated up again last year it was basically already a moot point. Planning to decommission the plants was already too advanced. There was no personal, no company that wanted to operate the plants, no fuel, etc. [1] https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=de&c=DE&interval=year&year=2023&source=total https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=de&c...
- troupo 3y ago
  > And more than compensated their nuclear plants The moment they shut down their last nuclear plant they had several quiet nice in a row. The total output of renewables was about 4% of the installed capacity. So Germany had to burn copious amount of coal, and gas, and buy energy from France
  - troupo 3y ago
    For those downvoting: Right now, as I write this, in Germany: - Wind: 66.5 GW installed capacity. Generation: 1.82 GW, or 2.74% of that - Solar: 69.1 GW of installed capacity. Generation: 0.38 GW, or 0.55% of that - Hydro: 9.78 GW of installed capacity. Generation: 3.09 GW, or 31% of that So Germany is busy burning gas (generation: 7.6 GW), coal (generation: 14.2 GW), and "bio fuels" (generation: 5 GW), and importing electricity from as far away as Norway
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  Indeed, but this "too late to change course" just emphasizes Germany's poor (and fear/emotional based) long term energy strategy.
Krasnol 3y ago
This is not true https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37199842 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37199842

This is actually not true (or was only very briefly true) [1] Germany has added a lot of renewables over the last couple years. And more than compensated their nuclear plants, which only played a minor role in Germany's electricity production at that point anyway. Of course Germany could have reduced the CO2 output even more if the nuclear plants hadn't been turned off. However, when the discussion heated up again last year it was basically already a moot point. Planning to decommission the plants was already too advanced. There was no personal, no company that wanted to operate the plants, no fuel, etc. [1] https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=de&c=DE&interval=year&year=2023&source=total https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=de&c...

troupo 3y ago
> And more than compensated their nuclear plants The moment they shut down their last nuclear plant they had several quiet nice in a row. The total output of renewables was about 4% of the installed capacity. So Germany had to burn copious amount of coal, and gas, and buy energy from France
- troupo 3y ago
  For those downvoting: Right now, as I write this, in Germany: - Wind: 66.5 GW installed capacity. Generation: 1.82 GW, or 2.74% of that - Solar: 69.1 GW of installed capacity. Generation: 0.38 GW, or 0.55% of that - Hydro: 9.78 GW of installed capacity. Generation: 3.09 GW, or 31% of that So Germany is busy burning gas (generation: 7.6 GW), coal (generation: 14.2 GW), and "bio fuels" (generation: 5 GW), and importing electricity from as far away as Norway
The_Colonel 3y ago
Indeed, but this "too late to change course" just emphasizes Germany's poor (and fear/emotional based) long term energy strategy.

Krasnol 3y ago

This is not true https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37199842 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37199842