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WebGPU is fairly recent and WebUSB is in the category of “why would I ever want my browser to access USB”, for me.

pjmlp 3y ago
Both aren't supported by FF, and I can remember of other examples, that for all practical purposes make Chrome the new IE.
- tambourine_man 3y ago
  IE had 95% market share at some point and was closed source. Chrome is open source and on mobile in the US is close to 50%. There are similarities, but it’s far from the same situation.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Foolish dreamers anyone that thinks Chrome being open source makes a difference in Google's Web domination masterplan. US is one country among 195, and the other 50%, which are mostly from Safari, are one of the reasons why the Web isn't yet fully assimilated as ChromeOS.
    - tambourine_man 3y ago
      It’s foolish to think it doesn’t. Blink was a fork of WebKit. There’s nothing stopping someone from forking it either. Certainly a lot easier than reverse engineering IE bug for bug. The US is the largest economy in the planet and home to most tech companies and all browser engine makers. Calling it “one country among 195” is dodging the issue. That’s not to say that Google isn’t on a quest to conquer the Web and that Chrome isn’t incredibly popular. It’s just that comparing it to IE is a bridge too far.
      - pjmlp 3y ago
        Sure, keep thinking that way, we all know how Brave is going to take over.
        tambourine_man 3y ago
        Lovely contribution to the conversation. Thanks.
magicalhippo 3y ago
> why would I ever want my browser to access USB With ESPHome[1] I could edit, compile and up upload firmware to my ESP device directly in my browser without installing any tools. I had planned on using VSCode, but I got some extension conflicts due to some other extension (Platform.io IIRC). I had the similar reaction when first reading about WebUSB as you, but after seeing how smooth it was, I admit I thought it was pretty darn neat. It drastically lowers the barrier of entry for those who aren't that technical. [1]: https://esphome.io/ https://esphome.io/

Both aren't supported by FF, and I can remember of other examples, that for all practical purposes make Chrome the new IE.

tambourine_man 3y ago
IE had 95% market share at some point and was closed source. Chrome is open source and on mobile in the US is close to 50%. There are similarities, but it’s far from the same situation.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Foolish dreamers anyone that thinks Chrome being open source makes a difference in Google's Web domination masterplan. US is one country among 195, and the other 50%, which are mostly from Safari, are one of the reasons why the Web isn't yet fully assimilated as ChromeOS.
  - tambourine_man 3y ago
    It’s foolish to think it doesn’t. Blink was a fork of WebKit. There’s nothing stopping someone from forking it either. Certainly a lot easier than reverse engineering IE bug for bug. The US is the largest economy in the planet and home to most tech companies and all browser engine makers. Calling it “one country among 195” is dodging the issue. That’s not to say that Google isn’t on a quest to conquer the Web and that Chrome isn’t incredibly popular. It’s just that comparing it to IE is a bridge too far.
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      Sure, keep thinking that way, we all know how Brave is going to take over.
      - tambourine_man 3y ago
        Lovely contribution to the conversation. Thanks.

magicalhippo 3y ago

> why would I ever want my browser to access USB With ESPHome[1] I could edit, compile and up upload firmware to my ESP device directly in my browser without installing any tools. I had planned on using VSCode, but I got some extension conflicts due to some other extension (Platform.io IIRC). I had the similar reaction when first reading about WebUSB as you, but after seeing how smooth it was, I admit I thought it was pretty darn neat. It drastically lowers the barrier of entry for those who aren't that technical. [1]: https://esphome.io/ https://esphome.io/