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For a category of software as "boring" as an OS is, I really agree that "just working" is the ultimate, almost sacred quality. I simply can't stand anymore the

For a category of software as "boring" as an OS is, I really agree that "just working" is the ultimate, almost sacred quality. I simply can't stand anymore the incessant ritual of software updates, and even the rhythm of something cutting edge like VS Code, on my Ubuntu LTS, is slightly too frequent for my taste.

pkulak 3y ago
That’s all well and good, but you need security updates too.
- NAR8789 3y ago
  Yes, and Debian provides those, backporting where necessary.
- serf 3y ago
  I don't get the contradiction. Are you implying that security update don't 'just work' or that Debian doesn't push security update? The kind of 'just works' that most refer to is that they turn their computer on and start working, rather than turning their computer on, being forced to login to a net account, being forced into a tutorial dialogue for a newly added feature, and then realizing that BigCo deprecated your file format support last forced update because they replaced it with TheNewWay.
  - pkulak 3y ago
    I'm responding to this: > I simply can't stand anymore the incessant ritual of software updates
- bornfreddy 3y ago
  No you don't, or at least I don't. I need secure software. Frequent security upgrades are a good indicator that vendor didn't do a good job at the start. Once in a while, ok, and debian supports a special channel for security upgrades for this very purpose.
  - pkulak 3y ago
    I do agree that with perfect software, written by perfect developers, updates aren't needed. I mean, has anyone ever had to "update" the Mona Lisa? I hold my web browser to the same standard.
    - vGPU 3y ago
      People have certainly tried. https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/mona-lisa-smeared-cake-vandalism-1234630315/ https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/mona-lisa-smeared-cake...
- rudasn 3y ago
  I recently subscribed to debians security updates newsletter and I get about 2-3 emails per week about new exploits and security releases. Not sure your comment applies here.

pkulak 3y ago

That’s all well and good, but you need security updates too.

NAR8789 3y ago
Yes, and Debian provides those, backporting where necessary.
serf 3y ago
I don't get the contradiction. Are you implying that security update don't 'just work' or that Debian doesn't push security update? The kind of 'just works' that most refer to is that they turn their computer on and start working, rather than turning their computer on, being forced to login to a net account, being forced into a tutorial dialogue for a newly added feature, and then realizing that BigCo deprecated your file format support last forced update because they replaced it with TheNewWay.
- pkulak 3y ago
  I'm responding to this: > I simply can't stand anymore the incessant ritual of software updates
bornfreddy 3y ago
No you don't, or at least I don't. I need secure software. Frequent security upgrades are a good indicator that vendor didn't do a good job at the start. Once in a while, ok, and debian supports a special channel for security upgrades for this very purpose.
- pkulak 3y ago
  I do agree that with perfect software, written by perfect developers, updates aren't needed. I mean, has anyone ever had to "update" the Mona Lisa? I hold my web browser to the same standard.
  - vGPU 3y ago
    People have certainly tried. https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/mona-lisa-smeared-cake-vandalism-1234630315/ https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/mona-lisa-smeared-cake...
rudasn 3y ago
I recently subscribed to debians security updates newsletter and I get about 2-3 emails per week about new exploits and security releases. Not sure your comment applies here.