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Browsers are so similar these days, web standards are so well defined, I see little reason to code Chrome-only sites. Having been through the IEs of the 90s/00
by tambourine_man 3y ago
Browsers are so similar these days, web standards are so well defined, I see little reason to code Chrome-only sites.
Having been through the IEs of the 90s/00s, I feel proud that we managed to scape what seemed an irreversible fate and a sense of responsibility to do whatever I can to help prevent it from happening again.
- pjmlp 3y agoTry to use WebUSB or WebGPU on Firefox.
- jwells89 3y agoI’m not sure about WebGPU, but WebUSB was pushed through by Google without any regard at all for Mozilla’s and Apple’s concerns, so it’s not too surprising it’s a Chrome exclusive.
- pjmlp 3y agoSo it isn't as well defined as the parent was making it. Thanks to Chrome worshipping, there is no Web anymore, Apple is the only wall preventing Web developers to replace Web with ChromeOS on their CV.
- politelemon 3y agoThat is not true, two harmful environments does not make either one a saviour, they are simply making web development worse.
- pjmlp 3y agoSorry to break it to you, without Apple, Google would have won already. Doesn't matter how good or evil they happen to be. No one cares about Firefox, apparently not even the large majority of HN folks.
- toyg 3y agoEven if the enemy of my enemy is my friend, it doesn't need to be my best friend. Apple is as bad for the web as Google. They refuse to allow other engines on their mobile, money-making OS.
- Klonoar 3y agoYou have completely missed the point they’re making to you: that refusal, however bad, is the only reason Chrome is not overwhelmingly dominant.
- toyg 3y agoI know that, but this is often spun as a positive for Apple and it's not: it's an accidental side-effect of their own anti-competitive stance. If anything, it works as a fig leaf to Google's monopoly. Apple should stop their stupid policy, open their platform, and instead make it plain to antitrust authorities that Google needs reigning in.
- tambourine_man 3y agoWebGPU is fairly recent and WebUSB is in the category of “why would I ever want my browser to access USB”, for me.
- pjmlp 3y agoBoth aren't supported by FF, and I can remember of other examples, that for all practical purposes make Chrome the new IE.
- tambourine_man 3y agoIE had 95% market share at some point and was closed source. Chrome is open source and on mobile in the US is close to 50%. There are similarities, but it’s far from the same situation.
- pjmlp 3y agoFoolish dreamers anyone that thinks Chrome being open source makes a difference in Google's Web domination masterplan. US is one country among 195, and the other 50%, which are mostly from Safari, are one of the reasons why the Web isn't yet fully assimilated as ChromeOS.
- tambourine_man 3y agoIt’s foolish to think it doesn’t. Blink was a fork of WebKit. There’s nothing stopping someone from forking it either. Certainly a lot easier than reverse engineering IE bug for bug. The US is the largest economy in the planet and home to most tech companies and all browser engine makers. Calling it “one country among 195” is dodging the issue. That’s not to say that Google isn’t on a quest to conquer the Web and that Chrome isn’t incredibly popular. It’s just that comparing it to IE is a bridge too far.
- pjmlp 3y agoSure, keep thinking that way, we all know how Brave is going to take over.
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