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No, Rowling is one of those spewing hate, then receiving pushback. Trans people however just want to live their lives in peace but get constantly harassed. A bi

No, Rowling is one of those spewing hate, then receiving pushback. Trans people however just want to live their lives in peace but get constantly harassed. A big difference.

cubefox 3y ago
... that's the far-left take on the dispute. It perfectly shows that what is viewed as "harassment" and what counts as "pushback" is highly subjective and dependent on political leaning. So blocking can be alternatively interpreted as blocking evil "harassment" or as unfairly blocking righteous "pushback". That's probably why so many people are in favor of blocking: They all employ the definitions of those terms in a way that is convenient to them.
woriads 3y ago
She's asserting the rights of women to have female-only spaces, and to not be linguistically erased. That's not exactly "spewing hate" is it.
- matsemann 3y ago
  Perhaps trans women should have the right to a safe space as well, hence be able to block people?
  - cubefox 3y ago
    No, because other people won't be able to block them either. Anything else would be unfair.
- malfist 3y ago
  No, she's not. Female only spaces would include all females. Not whomever Rowling decides has sufficient quantities of the essence of what she defines as woman.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    A "female" is a biological sex category for all kinds of animals. It has little to do with the allegedly socially "constructed" concept of "gender identity".
  - cutemonster 3y ago
    "Trans woman Isla Bryson jailed for eight years for raping two women" I wonder if you did not know about that, or if you think that that person should share dressing room and showers with biological women. If you didn't know about that, maybe now it's simpler for you to at least a bit see how JKR is thinking? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/28/trans-woman-isla-bryson-jailed-raping-two-women https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/28/trans-woman-... (Just to avoid misunderstandings: Such events are of course very rare, the trans people I know are kind and lovely people)
    - apmee 3y ago
      I don’t quite understand how you’re able to acknowledge the rarity of such a sensationalised case as Isla Bryson’s, yet still use it to justify your support for policy that would hurt the trans people you know.
      - cubefox 3y ago
        Acknowledge? It is unclear whether MtF transsexuals have an incidence of commiting rape more similar to biological males or to biological females. So whether it is in fact "rare" (relative to the male base rate) or "frequent" (relative to the female base rate) is not established here.
        groonery 3y ago
        The data gathered so far shows that they have a pattern of criminality similar to other men, particularly regarding sex crimes: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-se... More research is needed, but I think it's not an unexpected conclusion. I mean, the only difference between these men and other men is that they're calling themselves women. Most of them keep their genitals intact, and most are driven to identify as women due to a paraphilia.

No, Rowling is one of those spewing hate, then receiving pushback. Trans people however just want to live their lives in peace but get constantly harassed. A big difference.

cubefox 3y ago

... that's the far-left take on the dispute. It perfectly shows that what is viewed as "harassment" and what counts as "pushback" is highly subjective and dependent on political leaning. So blocking can be alternatively interpreted as blocking evil "harassment" or as unfairly blocking righteous "pushback". That's probably why so many people are in favor of blocking: They all employ the definitions of those terms in a way that is convenient to them.

woriads 3y ago

She's asserting the rights of women to have female-only spaces, and to not be linguistically erased. That's not exactly "spewing hate" is it.

matsemann 3y ago
Perhaps trans women should have the right to a safe space as well, hence be able to block people?
- cubefox 3y ago
  No, because other people won't be able to block them either. Anything else would be unfair.
malfist 3y ago
No, she's not. Female only spaces would include all females. Not whomever Rowling decides has sufficient quantities of the essence of what she defines as woman.
- cubefox 3y ago
  A "female" is a biological sex category for all kinds of animals. It has little to do with the allegedly socially "constructed" concept of "gender identity".
- cutemonster 3y ago
  "Trans woman Isla Bryson jailed for eight years for raping two women" I wonder if you did not know about that, or if you think that that person should share dressing room and showers with biological women. If you didn't know about that, maybe now it's simpler for you to at least a bit see how JKR is thinking? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/28/trans-woman-isla-bryson-jailed-raping-two-women https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/28/trans-woman-... (Just to avoid misunderstandings: Such events are of course very rare, the trans people I know are kind and lovely people)
  - apmee 3y ago
    I don’t quite understand how you’re able to acknowledge the rarity of such a sensationalised case as Isla Bryson’s, yet still use it to justify your support for policy that would hurt the trans people you know.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      Acknowledge? It is unclear whether MtF transsexuals have an incidence of commiting rape more similar to biological males or to biological females. So whether it is in fact "rare" (relative to the male base rate) or "frequent" (relative to the female base rate) is not established here.
      - groonery 3y ago
        The data gathered so far shows that they have a pattern of criminality similar to other men, particularly regarding sex crimes: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-se... More research is needed, but I think it's not an unexpected conclusion. I mean, the only difference between these men and other men is that they're calling themselves women. Most of them keep their genitals intact, and most are driven to identify as women due to a paraphilia.