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Yeah except for Pioneer 1 Pioneer 2 Pioneer 3 Pioneer 4 Pioneer P-3 Pioneer P-30 Pioneer P-31 Ranger 3 That's not the end of the list I just got bored.

wheelerof4te 3y ago
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- avhon1 3y ago
  It's not really a mystery why Russia's mission crashed. Their space program has been struggling to maintain quality across the board. Further, their Soviet legacy was not particularly successful at soft-landing on the moon (7 successes out of 27 attempts). China has successfully soft-landed on the moon all three times they've tried. India's much lower-budget program has failed twice, but given their success in their other space endeavors, they probably have pretty good odds of making this landing.
darthrupert 3y ago
None of which crashed on the moon. Fact is that USA of the late 60s and early 70s was hugely better at this than Russia is today, and probably better than China and India -- although the latter two are making good and steady progress. And who knows, perhaps the USA couldn't do it either in 2023.
- psychphysic 3y ago
  That's excellent spin. At least we didn't crash on the moon! Just at take off :) Can we just agree that India's Chandrayaan-3 will be a huge moment for humans? The first touch down, and in an unexplored interesting region in most of our lifetimes.
  - wheelerof4te 3y ago
    Imagine when they find frozen water down there in the shadowy craters. That would be sci-fi dream come true.
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  - darthrupert 3y ago
    >That's excellent spin. At least we didn't crash on the moon! Just at take off :) It wasn't a spin, it was just a refusal to accept your moving the goalposts. >Can we just agree that India's Chandrayaan-3 will be a huge moment for humans? Sure, and I have nothing against India's space achievements. India should have shown more backbone in the UN votes against Russia's invasion, though, so they're not entirely benevolent right now. But there's no comparison to Russia's crimes, of course. They are far worse.
    - psychphysic 3y ago
      > it was just a refusal to accept your moving the goalposts. Moving goal posts! Were on the topic of missions to land the south pole of the moon. You move the goal posts from landing on the south pole to any mission to the moon and add in a caveat of 100 success rate. Disproven there you claim if the mission didn't leave earth orbit it's not relevant. Disproven there. You move the goal posts to entirely to UN votes! Hahahaha what on earth are you smoking?! I for one will look forwards to India pulling this off, an achievement no other nation has managed..not even the US.

wheelerof4te 3y ago

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avhon1 3y ago
It's not really a mystery why Russia's mission crashed. Their space program has been struggling to maintain quality across the board. Further, their Soviet legacy was not particularly successful at soft-landing on the moon (7 successes out of 27 attempts). China has successfully soft-landed on the moon all three times they've tried. India's much lower-budget program has failed twice, but given their success in their other space endeavors, they probably have pretty good odds of making this landing.

darthrupert 3y ago

None of which crashed on the moon. Fact is that USA of the late 60s and early 70s was hugely better at this than Russia is today, and probably better than China and India -- although the latter two are making good and steady progress. And who knows, perhaps the USA couldn't do it either in 2023.

psychphysic 3y ago
That's excellent spin. At least we didn't crash on the moon! Just at take off :) Can we just agree that India's Chandrayaan-3 will be a huge moment for humans? The first touch down, and in an unexplored interesting region in most of our lifetimes.
- wheelerof4te 3y ago
  Imagine when they find frozen water down there in the shadowy craters. That would be sci-fi dream come true.
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- darthrupert 3y ago
  >That's excellent spin. At least we didn't crash on the moon! Just at take off :) It wasn't a spin, it was just a refusal to accept your moving the goalposts. >Can we just agree that India's Chandrayaan-3 will be a huge moment for humans? Sure, and I have nothing against India's space achievements. India should have shown more backbone in the UN votes against Russia's invasion, though, so they're not entirely benevolent right now. But there's no comparison to Russia's crimes, of course. They are far worse.
  - psychphysic 3y ago
    > it was just a refusal to accept your moving the goalposts. Moving goal posts! Were on the topic of missions to land the south pole of the moon. You move the goal posts from landing on the south pole to any mission to the moon and add in a caveat of 100 success rate. Disproven there you claim if the mission didn't leave earth orbit it's not relevant. Disproven there. You move the goal posts to entirely to UN votes! Hahahaha what on earth are you smoking?! I for one will look forwards to India pulling this off, an achievement no other nation has managed..not even the US.