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It really is amazing how extreme weather events are starting to feel like mass shootings. Awful, shocking, once-in-a-lifetime events ... that now seem to happen

It really is amazing how extreme weather events are starting to feel like mass shootings. Awful, shocking, once-in-a-lifetime events ... that now seem to happen so frequently that, depending where you live and where the weather emergency is, you shrug and "those poor people", and get on with your day. Oh, and also: "There's literally nothing we can do / could have done to prevent this awful disaster!" and"Thoughts and prayers" sent by the bucket.

d__a__n___g 3y ago
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- preommr 3y ago
  When we get the wish.com version of dang.
taurath 3y ago
The intractability is honestly the worst part. All decisions to help the climate crisis are first and foremost prioritizing private sector profits. We’re sitting around hoping for new inventions to save us.
- raffraffraff 3y ago
  The royal "we", yes we are. Personally, I've been extremely conscious of this for over 30 years, mainly because my wife took this stuff very seriously and put a huge amount of time into researching it. So we're vegetarian, no kids, don't drive and quit flying a long time ago. We still have an extremely comfortable and enjoyable lifestyle, and I know that's only possible because of world wide trade and progress in science, technology and manufacturing. Everybody has to draw their own lines, where they're physically, politically and morally comfortable. Edit: in total honestly, my wife drew the lines, and I've been happy to live along them. So I claim no great moral superiority here.
  - mptest 3y ago
    Why would you restrict yourself so when 71% of climate emissions are produced by 100 companies?? Never understood the impetus to restrict yourself when we're beyond negligible. Carbon footprint propaganda was rhetoric popularized by BP themselves to shift the blame to empathetic people like you and your wife, while they continue to make everything worse. Vote for and organize for serious progressive candidates who take climate seriously in your local elections. That will do a million $ more than you not taking a vacation because of plane emissions while the rich take private flights down to the grocery store.
    - Gud 3y ago
      Still it’s worth changing your individual behavior. Just because Al Gore takes a jet to the grocery doesn’t mean that parent commentators reduction in CO2 emissions has been useless. I think we should work both ways: be conscious about what we can do as individuals and at the same time, organize society.
      - mptest 3y ago
        >parent commentators reduction in emissions has been useless Useless? Of course not. Completely negligible? Absolutely, 100%. I'm no climate scientist but voting literally once for the party that believes in climate science probably has about a million x the effect of you not going on vacation. >Be conscious about what we can do as individuals All I'm contesting is that the most effective thing we can do is participate and organize in politics. Not going on vacation and markedly decreasing your quality of life to reduce climate emissions by 1x10^-9999999 percent is naively negligible at best, a propagandized (by an oil company nonetheless) abdication of their larger responsibility to participate in politics causing the actual damage as science denying lunatics fill offices around the nation at worst.
        MrOwen 3y ago
        I wouldn't disagree with you but I agree with gp that you need both sides. If you had a population that was apathetic and didn't believe change was possible (and did not act accordingly), then really nothing would get done. The only way stuff gets done is through outreach and education. Once a critical mass of people truly believe that the only way forward is through intense environmental law reform, then it will happen. Of course companies will fight tooth and nail to not make it happen but that shouldn't be the primary deterrent for not doing anything about the problem.
- systemvoltage 3y ago
  I can't help but see some extreme media doom & gloom stories leading people to think we're all gonna die. Stuff like this: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1679837601489096708 https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1679837601489096708 Also some interesting deep dive about NOAA data: https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1679838210086641668 https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1679838210086641668
  - raffraffraff 3y ago
    Twitter (x?) has become a car crash. Unless you're logged into it those tweets (posts?) go nowhere. I genuinely believe he's flushing those billions down the toilet.
    - systemvoltage 3y ago
      I love Twitter, if you curate a good audience, it's fun. Not a fan of bunch of changes going on, removing blocking would be a huge mistake.
    - tehwebguy 3y ago
      You aren’t missing anything by not being able to see that first link. It’s a misleading post from a right wing grifter that does pretty much nothing but make misleading posts. More info on this specific viral image here: https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7 https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7 Bottom line is that the all-green and color coded versions of this temperature map have both been used for 30 years. It wasn’t some change in the last few years to make the temperatures seem scary, as the grifter is clearly implying (and the HN user is clearly inferring).
      - systemvoltage 3y ago
        That fact check was full of bullshit. It does nothing to convince me it wasn’t intentional. There is no “fact checking” here. They agree it’s different colors and one is portraying rain in 2022 with red colors. Yeah… there is a reason why they chose red and not blue. I thought AP was being sarcastic.
systemvoltage 3y ago
Well, this type of an event has happened several times: https://twitter.com/i/birdwatch/n/1692689800539574620 https://twitter.com/i/birdwatch/n/1692689800539574620
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Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
Once in a lifetime? This says that the last time California had a hurricane was 84 years ago. Current US life expectancy is under 80 years. Seems like it is on track for a "shocking once in a lifetime" event.

d__a__n___g 3y ago

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preommr 3y ago
When we get the wish.com version of dang.

taurath 3y ago

The intractability is honestly the worst part. All decisions to help the climate crisis are first and foremost prioritizing private sector profits. We’re sitting around hoping for new inventions to save us.

raffraffraff 3y ago
The royal "we", yes we are. Personally, I've been extremely conscious of this for over 30 years, mainly because my wife took this stuff very seriously and put a huge amount of time into researching it. So we're vegetarian, no kids, don't drive and quit flying a long time ago. We still have an extremely comfortable and enjoyable lifestyle, and I know that's only possible because of world wide trade and progress in science, technology and manufacturing. Everybody has to draw their own lines, where they're physically, politically and morally comfortable. Edit: in total honestly, my wife drew the lines, and I've been happy to live along them. So I claim no great moral superiority here.
- mptest 3y ago
  Why would you restrict yourself so when 71% of climate emissions are produced by 100 companies?? Never understood the impetus to restrict yourself when we're beyond negligible. Carbon footprint propaganda was rhetoric popularized by BP themselves to shift the blame to empathetic people like you and your wife, while they continue to make everything worse. Vote for and organize for serious progressive candidates who take climate seriously in your local elections. That will do a million $ more than you not taking a vacation because of plane emissions while the rich take private flights down to the grocery store.
  - Gud 3y ago
    Still it’s worth changing your individual behavior. Just because Al Gore takes a jet to the grocery doesn’t mean that parent commentators reduction in CO2 emissions has been useless. I think we should work both ways: be conscious about what we can do as individuals and at the same time, organize society.
    - mptest 3y ago
      >parent commentators reduction in emissions has been useless Useless? Of course not. Completely negligible? Absolutely, 100%. I'm no climate scientist but voting literally once for the party that believes in climate science probably has about a million x the effect of you not going on vacation. >Be conscious about what we can do as individuals All I'm contesting is that the most effective thing we can do is participate and organize in politics. Not going on vacation and markedly decreasing your quality of life to reduce climate emissions by 1x10^-9999999 percent is naively negligible at best, a propagandized (by an oil company nonetheless) abdication of their larger responsibility to participate in politics causing the actual damage as science denying lunatics fill offices around the nation at worst.
      - MrOwen 3y ago
        I wouldn't disagree with you but I agree with gp that you need both sides. If you had a population that was apathetic and didn't believe change was possible (and did not act accordingly), then really nothing would get done. The only way stuff gets done is through outreach and education. Once a critical mass of people truly believe that the only way forward is through intense environmental law reform, then it will happen. Of course companies will fight tooth and nail to not make it happen but that shouldn't be the primary deterrent for not doing anything about the problem.
systemvoltage 3y ago
I can't help but see some extreme media doom & gloom stories leading people to think we're all gonna die. Stuff like this: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1679837601489096708 https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1679837601489096708 Also some interesting deep dive about NOAA data: https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1679838210086641668 https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1679838210086641668
- raffraffraff 3y ago
  Twitter (x?) has become a car crash. Unless you're logged into it those tweets (posts?) go nowhere. I genuinely believe he's flushing those billions down the toilet.
  - systemvoltage 3y ago
    I love Twitter, if you curate a good audience, it's fun. Not a fan of bunch of changes going on, removing blocking would be a huge mistake.
  - tehwebguy 3y ago
    You aren’t missing anything by not being able to see that first link. It’s a misleading post from a right wing grifter that does pretty much nothing but make misleading posts. More info on this specific viral image here: https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7 https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7 Bottom line is that the all-green and color coded versions of this temperature map have both been used for 30 years. It wasn’t some change in the last few years to make the temperatures seem scary, as the grifter is clearly implying (and the HN user is clearly inferring).
    - systemvoltage 3y ago
      That fact check was full of bullshit. It does nothing to convince me it wasn’t intentional. There is no “fact checking” here. They agree it’s different colors and one is portraying rain in 2022 with red colors. Yeah… there is a reason why they chose red and not blue. I thought AP was being sarcastic.

systemvoltage 3y ago

Well, this type of an event has happened several times: https://twitter.com/i/birdwatch/n/1692689800539574620 https://twitter.com/i/birdwatch/n/1692689800539574620

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Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago

Once in a lifetime? This says that the last time California had a hurricane was 84 years ago. Current US life expectancy is under 80 years. Seems like it is on track for a "shocking once in a lifetime" event.