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Not a justification and only pure speculation but what if there's another reason? You can't think that the NSA and CIA are stupid. They know its bunk science th
by zer8k 3y ago
Not a justification and only pure speculation but what if there's another reason? You can't think that the NSA and CIA are stupid. They know its bunk science that has been disproven 1,000 times over. But the psychological effects of being on the machine are very, very measurable.
Perhaps its being used as a tool to evaluate a person in other ways. For example, you're generally not arrested for admitting to crimes like smoking weed or stealing candy bars from a gas station. But admitting to crimes, or morality divergence (such as adultery), can mean with enough effort a smart intelligence organization could manipulate you.
- foooorsyth 3y ago> You can't think that the NSA and CIA are stupid Au contraire
- ch4s3 3y agoYou’d be surprised what you can’t get a man of Yale to believe when honor is on the line.
- judge2020 3y agoThey're not stupid but they have to maintain the shroud of "this works", both internally and externally, lest the word get out that "the intelligence community doesn't even believe in their own polygraphs"
- foooorsyth 3y agoThey don’t have to maintain anything. Admit it was a stupid practice and stop doing it. Maintaining appearances makes them look dumb AND stubborn AND unwilling to admit prior mistakes. Yeah, sign me up.
- mewpmewp2 3y agoInterview process and courts are different though. If it is used as a vetting tool it would not be a big deal if it scores a false positive if it at the same time is able to identify at least some positives. If you have enough candidates certain accuracy may be worth it.
- vlovich123 3y agoSo Ouija boards, astrological sign analysis, and a random number generator should be on the table too right? After all, if it identifies at least some true positives...
- pomatius 3y agoTalking about the interview process...I know you are talking about suspect police interviews, but job interviews is another space where crackpot pseudo-science and shit propietary tech such as IA pre-screening have a prominent say as well, for the worse
- Spooky23 3y agoWhat does “this works” mean? You’re assuming it means to detect lies. Perhaps that’s not the value it brings.
- pc86 3y agoThe reason they're doing it is because it's national security and espionage. It's objectively better to deny 1,000 solid applicants because of something on a polygraph doesn't look right than to allow in one foreign agent, at least that's the idea. So they add this filter, it will filter out some good people but maybe it'll filter out a bad one or two. That one or two makes it worth it in their eyes. It has nothing to do with "maintaining the shroud of 'this works'" because it does work for the purpose they have. It doesn't need to be 100% accurate or admissible in court.
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