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> For example, the Canadian politicians who focus the most on that subject, and who impose onerous "carbon taxes" on everyone, spend a lot of time in planes fly

> For example, the Canadian politicians who focus the most on that subject, and who impose onerous "carbon taxes" on everyone, spend a lot of time in planes flying all over the country, and even overseas. Most of this travel is unnecessary and pointless. Do you have data indicating that the politicians who don’t focus on the subject are more modest with their travel?

JimtheCoder 3y ago
"Do you have data indicating that the politicians who don’t focus on the subject are more modest with their travel?" Why would they be if they don't care as much...?
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  But it’s being asserted that both sides don’t genuinely care; that they care equally as much.
iFire 3y ago
Good scientific observation. To make a comparison that Canadian politicians who impose taxes jet travel more are harming the environment more, we need a comparison between controlled variable and the tested variable like the amount of jet travel Canadian politicians who don't impose taxes do.
ta8645 3y ago
The point is, if they honestly believed in climate change, their actions would reflect a state of emergency. Instead, they act as if nothing is wrong, except when it comes time to impose limits on others, and then they remember it's all justified by the need to save the planet. So comparing to other politicians is pointless, it's their actions in relation to their policies that is at issue, not how it compares to other politicians.
- VancouverMan 3y ago
  That's exactly right. The behaviour of the other politicians are irrelevant.
KennyBlanken 3y ago
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-family-travel-12x-obama-family/ https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/cre... > Last fiscal year, the Trump family took more trips that required Secret Service protection than the Obama family took in seven, according to a budget document released by the Treasury Department. On average, Obama’s family took 133.3 protected trips per year, while the Trump family has taken an average of 1,625 annually. There's one (non-Canadian) datapoint. Before anyone shouts "but Trump's family is bigger!": read the link.

JimtheCoder 3y ago

"Do you have data indicating that the politicians who don’t focus on the subject are more modest with their travel?" Why would they be if they don't care as much...?

ceejayoz 3y ago
But it’s being asserted that both sides don’t genuinely care; that they care equally as much.

iFire 3y ago

Good scientific observation. To make a comparison that Canadian politicians who impose taxes jet travel more are harming the environment more, we need a comparison between controlled variable and the tested variable like the amount of jet travel Canadian politicians who don't impose taxes do.

ta8645 3y ago

The point is, if they honestly believed in climate change, their actions would reflect a state of emergency. Instead, they act as if nothing is wrong, except when it comes time to impose limits on others, and then they remember it's all justified by the need to save the planet. So comparing to other politicians is pointless, it's their actions in relation to their policies that is at issue, not how it compares to other politicians.

VancouverMan 3y ago
That's exactly right. The behaviour of the other politicians are irrelevant.

KennyBlanken 3y ago

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-family-travel-12x-obama-family/ https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/cre... > Last fiscal year, the Trump family took more trips that required Secret Service protection than the Obama family took in seven, according to a budget document released by the Treasury Department. On average, Obama’s family took 133.3 protected trips per year, while the Trump family has taken an average of 1,625 annually. There's one (non-Canadian) datapoint. Before anyone shouts "but Trump's family is bigger!": read the link.