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I don't get this. The best veggie burger in my town doesn't taste anything like meat. Make more good, novel veggie products, not "realistic bones". Oh, and try
by beej71 3y ago
I don't get this. The best veggie burger in my town doesn't taste anything like meat. Make more good, novel veggie products, not "realistic bones".
Oh, and try to make them healthy, unlike Impossible burgers.
Next up: plant based roast boar's head, complete with eyeballs.
- pas 3y agothere's a market for both
- vorticalbox 3y agoI personally have a soft spot for halliumi. Best burger I've ever had was from a street market in Glasgow.
- mattl 3y agoDoes the veggie burger in your town fit inside a bun and stay inside the bun or does it fall apart immediately when you start eating it? I’ve had thousands of veggie burgers and most lack stability unfortunately
- beej71 3y agoI admit it isn't the most stable, but it was manageable. And the taste made up for it.
- mtalantikite 3y agoI’ve had the same problem with most veggie burgers, but found a recipe years ago that really holds up. It’s a Jamaican Ital recipe: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2005/05/26/bean-burgers-jamaican-style/ https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2005/05/26/bean-burgers-jamaica... Coincidentally I just got back from Jamaica a few days ago, and as a vegetarian I always try to find the Rasta spot as soon as I can as they’re usually the ones with the best veg food. I was thinking of these burgers and now here we are — I guess I should make a batch this weekend!
- unnamed76ri 3y agoI think I would have quit after the first couple. Don’t need thousands of examples to figure out it isn’t working.
- mattl 3y agoI usually wound up eating them with a knife and fork but still often the best vegetarian thing I could find to eat when I was traveling.
- hakfoo 3y agoFor people who are considering vegetarianism for environmental or health reasons, it's important to be able to say "You don't have to go without." Yes, there are a billion lovely things you can do with vegetables, but sometimes people are looking for a specific known quantity. Maybe it's a "food as a nostalgia/cultural heritage" thing-- you always had a hot dog when you went to the baseball game, now you can still get a Beyond Sausage. Maybe it's not yet being adventurous enough to try a meatless dish that stands on its own. Maybe it's trying to cater to an entire family, where other family members are eating meat and you want to provide something they'll be comfortable with. Even outside of the attempt to emulate meat, I give them credit for experimenting, because it expands the culinary vocabulary. Maybe those "realistic bones" can be used as part of an entirely novel dish to add texture or change how the cooking cycle progresses.
- benj111 3y agoBut the thing is ribs are just about one of the hardest things to emulate, so all that's going to happen is they'll fail and put people off meat alternatives. I'd rather they focus on things that stand a chance of actually being good alternatives.
- beej71 3y agoThese are good points. I'll take back some of the things I said about them. :)
- throwawaysleep 3y agoMeat eaters won’t eat less meat unless it is without much sacrifice. This product is intended for meat eaters trying to be vegetarian.
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- version_five 3y agoAgreed. I'm an unapologetic meat eater, and I'll never eat faux meat crap, especially when it's just some inferior copy of the real thing. But there are plenty of things that don't have meat in them that are good to eat- someone else mentioned halloumi, lots of Indian food and Japanese food, etc. It's the perennial "running for the leader of the opposition" problem. Focus on making something good, not on an inferior substitute for something that's already there.
- beej71 3y agoIt's like how almond milk is really good, but only if you don't try to pretend that it's cow milk.
- fasterik 3y agoThis ignores the reality that many people are attached to eating meat and all of the familiar things that come along with it. For many, the realistic simulations of meat are the first step toward adopting plant-based alternatives. It's also likely that cultivated ("lab-grown") meat is going to be more popular than plant-based when it reaches a similar price point to conventionally grown meat. I would say that the primary goal is to reduce the animal suffering and environmental damages caused by animal agriculture. Healthier varieties of plant-based products are a good thing too, but it's less important which products people are switching to, as long as they're switching away from factory farming.
- JodieBenitez 3y ago> the realistic simulations of meat There is no such thing.
- fasterik 3y agoSome of them are getting pretty close, to the point that people choose them over real meat in blind taste tests. Even if we never get to a perfect simulation of meat, the ethical and environmental reasons for avoiding factory farming far outweigh whatever marginal pleasure you might get from it.
- secondcoming 3y ago‘marginal’? Quite a leap there.
- JodieBenitez 3y agoWell... some people think whatever they eat at KFC is real poultry. I can understand how these people can be fooled. But for some of us lucky enough to eat the chicken we raised... this leap looks like the grand Canyon.
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