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I kind of like his ideas (I know the channel), but he’s heavily biased against cars. He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy. The reality is,

I kind of like his ideas (I know the channel), but he’s heavily biased against cars. He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy. The reality is, cities are incredibly noisy due to cars, but also construction work, people shouting, loud music and much more.

glial 3y ago
Yeah but mostly due to cars.
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jodrellblank 3y ago
> “He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy.” No? He drives cars, uses multiple car rental/car shares schemes, often says that it’s not cars he dislikes it’s urban design which leads to car dependency - unsafe for anyone outside a car, no provision for anything other than driving, single family housing zoning leading to everything being too spread out to go anywhere without a car - and that he’s not a ‘cyclist’ and would prefer taking a tram when possible. The channel is even called “not just bikes” to push back against your kind of mischaracterisation.
robswc 3y ago
Don't forget the trash trucks setting down dumpsters. Not that I blame them, no other way really but gave me a heart attack every time.
Aaargh20318 3y ago
> He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy While not everything can be done on a bike, a lot of people use a car when there is no need to. I can't understand why because cycling is way more enjoyable and in most cases a much faster way to get around town than a car. Especially if you own an e-bike. I own a car but hardly feel the need to use it. I usually need to buy a full tank of gas once or twice a year.
throw0101a 3y ago
> I kind of like his ideas (I know the channel), but he’s heavily biased against cars. He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy. It's kind of hard to over emphasize the the damage they've done, specifically as forms of personal transportation (versus more commercial transport). He does have a video called "The Best Country in the World for Drivers", in which he shows that by reducing the need for cars for most people, actually helps the optimize things for operating a car: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k And until the ~1920s, societies managed to function pretty well without the streets being taken over by cars: * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/ I don't see why they need to have total priority with-in cities to the extant they currently do.
- drukenemo 3y ago
  Thanks for those links. Will watch them
i80and 3y ago
I used to walk through midtown new york city every day. It's incredibly people-dense so there's definitely some baseline human noise, but I cannot emphasize enough how absolutely dwarfed by cars and delivery trucks it is. Construction work, shouting, music, etc. are almost a non-factor in comparison.
notatoad 3y ago
there's a new roundabout currently under construction about 200m from my house. i can hear the construction equipment working early in the morning and mid-afternoon when the road is quiet, but 90% of the time the construction noise is completely drowned out by the normal road noise, from the road on the far side of the roundabout. construction noise from a dozen pieces of heavy equipment working all day just isn't a significant source of noise compared to a moderately busy road. not to mention that in a few months the construction will be done, but the road will always be there. "people shouting" and "loud music" don't even factor.
nickserv 3y ago
Construction and loud music are localized, but car noise is everywhere.
- spixy 3y ago
  and construction is also just temporary
Moldoteck 3y ago
His channel is literally named NOT JUST bikes... He makes a lot of points about other aspects of safety, like speed bumps/other speed limiters, safe roundabouts, public transportation, etc... Cars are by far the biggest noise contributor in a city and tbh i'd like drivers to pay a tax based on max sound a car may make on max engine speed(and if they want to pay less tax, speed should be physically limited to max 100km/h or something similar based on gps. But that's just a fantasy

glial 3y ago

Yeah but mostly due to cars.

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jodrellblank 3y ago

> “He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy.” No? He drives cars, uses multiple car rental/car shares schemes, often says that it’s not cars he dislikes it’s urban design which leads to car dependency - unsafe for anyone outside a car, no provision for anything other than driving, single family housing zoning leading to everything being too spread out to go anywhere without a car - and that he’s not a ‘cyclist’ and would prefer taking a tram when possible. The channel is even called “not just bikes” to push back against your kind of mischaracterisation.

robswc 3y ago

Don't forget the trash trucks setting down dumpsters. Not that I blame them, no other way really but gave me a heart attack every time.

Aaargh20318 3y ago

> He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy While not everything can be done on a bike, a lot of people use a car when there is no need to. I can't understand why because cycling is way more enjoyable and in most cases a much faster way to get around town than a car. Especially if you own an e-bike. I own a car but hardly feel the need to use it. I usually need to buy a full tank of gas once or twice a year.

throw0101a 3y ago

> I kind of like his ideas (I know the channel), but he’s heavily biased against cars. He’s the “everything could be done on a bike” type of guy. It's kind of hard to over emphasize the the damage they've done, specifically as forms of personal transportation (versus more commercial transport). He does have a video called "The Best Country in the World for Drivers", in which he shows that by reducing the need for cars for most people, actually helps the optimize things for operating a car: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k And until the ~1920s, societies managed to function pretty well without the streets being taken over by cars: * https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/ I don't see why they need to have total priority with-in cities to the extant they currently do.

drukenemo 3y ago
Thanks for those links. Will watch them

i80and 3y ago

I used to walk through midtown new york city every day. It's incredibly people-dense so there's definitely some baseline human noise, but I cannot emphasize enough how absolutely dwarfed by cars and delivery trucks it is. Construction work, shouting, music, etc. are almost a non-factor in comparison.

notatoad 3y ago

there's a new roundabout currently under construction about 200m from my house. i can hear the construction equipment working early in the morning and mid-afternoon when the road is quiet, but 90% of the time the construction noise is completely drowned out by the normal road noise, from the road on the far side of the roundabout. construction noise from a dozen pieces of heavy equipment working all day just isn't a significant source of noise compared to a moderately busy road. not to mention that in a few months the construction will be done, but the road will always be there. "people shouting" and "loud music" don't even factor.

nickserv 3y ago

Construction and loud music are localized, but car noise is everywhere.

spixy 3y ago
and construction is also just temporary

Moldoteck 3y ago

His channel is literally named NOT JUST bikes... He makes a lot of points about other aspects of safety, like speed bumps/other speed limiters, safe roundabouts, public transportation, etc... Cars are by far the biggest noise contributor in a city and tbh i'd like drivers to pay a tax based on max sound a car may make on max engine speed(and if they want to pay less tax, speed should be physically limited to max 100km/h or something similar based on gps. But that's just a fantasy