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Exactly. Those are very common fallacies / excuses. > Add studies showing that even plants and fungi have senses and try to avoid harm https://yourveganfallac
by myshpa 3y ago
Exactly. Those are very common fallacies / excuses.
> Add studies showing that even plants and fungi have senses and try to avoid harm
https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/plants-are-alive https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/plants-are-alive
> since you kill plants and indirectly insects even on a plant based diet
https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/vegans-kill-animals-too https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/vegans-kill-animals-too
"Crop fields do indeed disrupt the habitats of wild animals, and wild animals are also killed when harvesting plants. However, this point makes the case for a plant-based diet and not against it, since many more plants are required to produce a measure of animal flesh for food (often as high as 12:1) than are required to produce an equal measure of plants for food (which is obviously 1:1). Because of this, a plant-based diet causes less suffering and death than one that includes animals."
- fantasticshower 3y agoCould a diet where you only eat the meat from one slaughtered cow be the ideal vegan diet? One consciousness killed. This approach would require purchasing a half from a local farmer who raises 100% grass fed animals and makes his own hay. The hay definitely kills some animals when harvested though. It would be interesting to quantify the death impact (calories of beef produced per bale of hay) of a hay harvest and compare that to the death impact for some staple vegan foods, and see how things stack up. Edit: The need for hay is a climate based one. There are places where cattle can graze for more or less days in a year. Hay is used a winter feed in places where winter forage is unavailable.
- myshpa 3y agoWhile the notion of consuming only one cow's meat appears to reduce number of deaths, we must confront the environmental repercussions of livestock farming. The resource intensive nature of animal agriculture causes more harm than it's immediately apparent (deforestation, biodiversity loss, eutrophication ...). https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/publications/grazed-and-confused/ https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/publications/grazed-and-co... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37188407 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37188407
- fantasticshower 3y agoThanks for that first link. I'm interested to see what the conclusions are.