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The article seems to mostly equate emotional states with consciousness but doesn’t make the case for that equivalence. Paramecia also exhibit negative stimuli a
by lukeasrodgers 3y ago
The article seems to mostly equate emotional states with consciousness but doesn’t make the case for that equivalence. Paramecia also exhibit negative stimuli avoidance behavior but I don’t think that can plausibly be cited as evidence that they experience pain. I am generally persuaded by Antonino Damasio’s arguments that consciousness is roughly a system “on top of” emotion, the latter essentially being a shorthand for a variety of behaviors related to the body’s efforts to maintain homeostasis. (I’m simplifying and probably getting details of his argument wrong, it’s been more than a decade since I read his stuff.)
I am sympathetic to the idea that “lower” animals may have something like mental states or conscious experience, I just don’t find the arguments in TFA convincing.
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- aradox66 3y agoPersonally, I'd much more need to be convinced that complex behavior and emotional states aren't evidence of consciousness. I feel the burden of proof goes in the other direction.
- derbOac 3y agoMy guess is that "pain" has many varieties, experientially and otherwise. The problem probably isn't in identifying the absence or presence of pain, it's coming to terms with what the nature of it is for any given organism.