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They are also one of the biggest contributors to journalists in the world. The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehood

They are also one of the biggest contributors to journalists in the world. The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, and without effort. https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3138630/why-do-so-many-us-intelligence-chiefs-become-media-pundits https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3138630/why-do-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_influence_on_public_opinio...

roenxi 3y ago
That is underselling the CIA. They can also detect when statements are true but simultaneously also Russian disinformation. That is a difficult skill to master - many ordinary people that I know can only manage to pick one. The best part of the modern internet is that it seems to have fatally wounded the ability of the US lie-industrial complex to stay out of the limelight. It is getting a lot easier to keep track of people like Brennan or Clapper. They've got relatively weak attempts at respectability like this article and they're up against a tide of well deserved contempt from the greater internet population who seem to have a mild preference for facts and truth.
boomskats 3y ago
100% agree. I will forever be grateful to them for helping me so easily and without effort discern between likely truths and false narratives imposed upon me by state-sponsored actors trying to shift public opinion in order to achieve their clandestine geopolitical goals.
imiric 3y ago
> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, and without effort. Are you sure about that? The CIA has been successfully conducting psyops for decades, on both US citizens and abroad, and it can go undetected by even experts in the matter, let alone regular citizens. That's the whole point of the operation: influence public opinion without leaking the source of the information. So unless the information is coming straight from a CIA official, I doubt that truth and falsehood is so easily discernible. Nobody is invulnerable to information warfare. We can just be skeptical in varying degrees, which can sometimes minimize how influenceable we are, but ultimately it's impossible to discern fact from fiction if your information sources have been polluted by propaganda. The internet is the greatest psyops weapon ever invented.
- ImHereToVote 3y ago
  I think that's a fair point. When CIA officials stated unequivocally that Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation. We knew we were getting the real deal.
  - frankharv 3y ago
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    - gmerc 3y ago
      Ah, the ultimate fascist wet fantasy. Thankfully he’s gonna rot in a Georgia state prison, likely for treason
      - Loughla 3y ago
        Not to be that guy, but you're foolish if you think a person who gets secret service protection, forever, will ever see the inside of a prison. What are they going to do? Empty an entire cell block just for one guy? If (and that's a BIG if) he's ever sentenced to anything, it will be like gps monitoring at most. Again, that's IF he sentenced to anything. I have no faith the US justice system will be able to convict him, as a side note. He's just too famous to have real consequences; that's how we do. Edit: these statements are not to be seen as pro-trump in an fashion. They are just common sense.
        gmerc 3y ago
        Well you know, common sense would be looking at Hitler and not making the same mistake. Gonna need to have some faith here, although I always thought the best season finale would him be stealing air force one to fly to his handler in Moscow to party with Steve Segal
        ImHereToVote 3y ago
        I believe this sort of comment really epitomises the good the CIA had done to society. Knowing the truth is just instinctive to large swathes of the US population.
ekianjo 3y ago
> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, Lol the CIA actively engages in media manipulation.
thoweir234234 3y ago
Indeed. Clearly it was Putin who was such a madlad that he destroyed his greatest bargaining chip in the Nordstream pipeline, and setoff a chain of events that will both destroy EU's economy and the threat it proved to US hegemony, while simultaneously ensuring that EU buys its LNG from US. Why is Putin helping us ? What a madlad.
hulitu 3y ago
> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, and without effort. So is the church. /s
Etrnl_President 3y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Presstitutes-Embedded-Pay-CIA-Confession/dp/1615770178 https://www.amazon.com/Presstitutes-Embedded-Pay-CIA-Confess...

roenxi 3y ago

That is underselling the CIA. They can also detect when statements are true but simultaneously also Russian disinformation. That is a difficult skill to master - many ordinary people that I know can only manage to pick one. The best part of the modern internet is that it seems to have fatally wounded the ability of the US lie-industrial complex to stay out of the limelight. It is getting a lot easier to keep track of people like Brennan or Clapper. They've got relatively weak attempts at respectability like this article and they're up against a tide of well deserved contempt from the greater internet population who seem to have a mild preference for facts and truth.

boomskats 3y ago

100% agree. I will forever be grateful to them for helping me so easily and without effort discern between likely truths and false narratives imposed upon me by state-sponsored actors trying to shift public opinion in order to achieve their clandestine geopolitical goals.

imiric 3y ago

> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, and without effort. Are you sure about that? The CIA has been successfully conducting psyops for decades, on both US citizens and abroad, and it can go undetected by even experts in the matter, let alone regular citizens. That's the whole point of the operation: influence public opinion without leaking the source of the information. So unless the information is coming straight from a CIA official, I doubt that truth and falsehood is so easily discernible. Nobody is invulnerable to information warfare. We can just be skeptical in varying degrees, which can sometimes minimize how influenceable we are, but ultimately it's impossible to discern fact from fiction if your information sources have been polluted by propaganda. The internet is the greatest psyops weapon ever invented.

ImHereToVote 3y ago
I think that's a fair point. When CIA officials stated unequivocally that Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation. We knew we were getting the real deal.
- frankharv 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - gmerc 3y ago
    Ah, the ultimate fascist wet fantasy. Thankfully he’s gonna rot in a Georgia state prison, likely for treason
    - Loughla 3y ago
      Not to be that guy, but you're foolish if you think a person who gets secret service protection, forever, will ever see the inside of a prison. What are they going to do? Empty an entire cell block just for one guy? If (and that's a BIG if) he's ever sentenced to anything, it will be like gps monitoring at most. Again, that's IF he sentenced to anything. I have no faith the US justice system will be able to convict him, as a side note. He's just too famous to have real consequences; that's how we do. Edit: these statements are not to be seen as pro-trump in an fashion. They are just common sense.
      - gmerc 3y ago
        Well you know, common sense would be looking at Hitler and not making the same mistake. Gonna need to have some faith here, although I always thought the best season finale would him be stealing air force one to fly to his handler in Moscow to party with Steve Segal
        ImHereToVote 3y ago
        I believe this sort of comment really epitomises the good the CIA had done to society. Knowing the truth is just instinctive to large swathes of the US population.

ekianjo 3y ago

> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, Lol the CIA actively engages in media manipulation.

thoweir234234 3y ago

Indeed. Clearly it was Putin who was such a madlad that he destroyed his greatest bargaining chip in the Nordstream pipeline, and setoff a chain of events that will both destroy EU's economy and the threat it proved to US hegemony, while simultaneously ensuring that EU buys its LNG from US. Why is Putin helping us ? What a madlad.

hulitu 3y ago

> The CIA is responsible for us being able to differentiate between truth and falsehoods so easily, and without effort. So is the church. /s

Etrnl_President 3y ago

https://www.amazon.com/Presstitutes-Embedded-Pay-CIA-Confession/dp/1615770178 https://www.amazon.com/Presstitutes-Embedded-Pay-CIA-Confess...