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From what I can see, you dug yourself into a hole. If google decides to close your account, you will be in some real trouble. You should start working ASAP in d

by veave 3y ago

From what I can see, you dug yourself into a hole. If google decides to close your account, you will be in some real trouble. You should start working ASAP in diversifying your online life.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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- veave 3y ago
  >Get a life and pick on someone else. Your mindless hate is transparent and pointless. People make choices in life, and we live with them. I hope you can respect mine a little more. I'm not hating, it's a recommendation for your own good. If you don't take the recommendation I hope you never get to regret the decision. >Also, look at yourselves a little bit. Have you got two ISPs? Two routers from different manufacturers? Plenty of mobile providers and a drawer full of SIMs? [...] I wouldn't have the same corporation provide me with internet access, routers, mobile providers, browsers, OSes, utilities, and my freezer, that's for bloody sure. Each one of the things you mention is provided to me by a different company and that's the way I like it. If I browse the wrong website and mozilla decides not to allow me to use firefox I don't have my water cut off or my freezer thawing my chicken breasts.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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    - veave 3y ago
      It's absurdly impractical to rent several houses to keep all your offline stuff - most people can not even afford it. On the other hand it's very easy to use several online services to keep all your online stuff. The only apple I use is an iphone but I don't use any online apple services or any kind of cloud storage of any company for that matter. Even in my iphone I use yandex mail services and I use the local calendar and notes without sending my stuff over to icloud. I also use spotify instead of apple music. Unfortunately as you say I am forced to use ios and safari but it's not that important. Regarding degoogling, there are lots of free services that do everything you want. How many free email, calendar and contacts providers are there? You can create a microsoft account and use some of their services too - they provide online office for free, and photo storage as well. No alternative to youtube but you can choose not to sign in when browsing videos and use RSS to subscribe to channels. And so on and so forth. "sign in with google" is an awful idea - if they ban your account you will lose not only your google account but accounts on other services as well. You have an Android phone and a Chromebook but you can still use these third party services on them.
      - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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        veave 3y ago
        I use an Apple ID, of course. I need it to download stuff from the store. But I don't buy apps or music with it. If it gets banned I just create another; no harm done, no money or data lost. (Luckily that hasn't happened yet). You can do the same with Android. >Now you want me to sign up with Microsoft. What's the logic in Microsoft? They never ban anyone? Nobody ever loses their account/email from Microsoft? You seem to miss the entire point of this conversation. All companies can ban you for no reason. Therefore you have to spread your data as widely as you can so that when it happens, you lose as little data as possible. You don't need to increase your "support budget" for using more services. Keeping your mail in GMX instead of Gmail won't take you any more time.
        NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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        barrysteve 3y ago
        You say you're not a sys admin anymore, you're a user. A user with 800 passwords to manage. It may be comfortable for you (despite your sole reliance on one company and an inability to leave it). In fact, I hope it is comfortable for you. Your testimony is basically a modern era journal of a man's life owned by Google. There is no reason why digital life needs to be so complex. The vendor lock-in is eerily similar to the strict rules and legalism of the old Empire, just hidden behind code structures and service fees. "freedom" really is shaking out to be more 'dom' than 'free'.
- McDyver 3y ago
  If your landlady is frequently brought up on unrelated sites by her other tenants saying she just evicted them without apparent cause or appeal, then maybe your landlady might cause you problems sooner or later.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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    - behringer 3y ago
      I personally know multiple individuals with inaccessible google accounts. I'm sure there's millions of lost accounts. They're just gone, period. They're not happy about it, but what can you do? Best I can tell them is post about it on HN.
      - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
        Some of my friends are Black, too. If there are 2 million lost accounts since Google's inception, then there are 0.1% of all accounts lost. And why are they lost? Account loss comes from many factors: failing to secure it and being hacked. Losing passwords or credentials. Abandonment. Inactivity. TOS violations. Death of user. There are many reasons accounts could be lost, and almost none of those reasons are no reason at all.
  - savanaly 3y ago
    If any given landlady served as many people as Google does you can be damn sure she would be brought up on all sorts of unrelated sites daily no matter how excellent she was. Being great is no match for having hundreds of millions of customers in terms of avoiding mistakes.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  > describes a life incredibly reliant on Google > receives warning to diversify and feigns taking it as a personal insult > throws around the word incel I'm pretty sure this guy is just trolling.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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    - flangola7 3y ago
      > Nah the trolls are the comrades spreading FUD about band for nyet reazonz and GTFO Google because Chernobyl could happen at any time I think you are trolling as well and may even be a sock puppet account. Reasonable concerns have been presented, not "FUD." Dismissing them out of hand is done so with unjustified confidence.
  - behringer 3y ago
    he's also doing the ol' but what about you? We're not talking about me, we're talking about you lol. If we always did what's best there'd be no posts like this on HN. We learn from experience and try to give advice based on that.

by veave 3y ago

From what I can see, you dug yourself into a hole. If google decides to close your account, you will be in some real trouble. You should start working ASAP in diversifying your online life.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

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veave 3y ago
>Get a life and pick on someone else. Your mindless hate is transparent and pointless. People make choices in life, and we live with them. I hope you can respect mine a little more. I'm not hating, it's a recommendation for your own good. If you don't take the recommendation I hope you never get to regret the decision. >Also, look at yourselves a little bit. Have you got two ISPs? Two routers from different manufacturers? Plenty of mobile providers and a drawer full of SIMs? [...] I wouldn't have the same corporation provide me with internet access, routers, mobile providers, browsers, OSes, utilities, and my freezer, that's for bloody sure. Each one of the things you mention is provided to me by a different company and that's the way I like it. If I browse the wrong website and mozilla decides not to allow me to use firefox I don't have my water cut off or my freezer thawing my chicken breasts.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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  - veave 3y ago
    It's absurdly impractical to rent several houses to keep all your offline stuff - most people can not even afford it. On the other hand it's very easy to use several online services to keep all your online stuff. The only apple I use is an iphone but I don't use any online apple services or any kind of cloud storage of any company for that matter. Even in my iphone I use yandex mail services and I use the local calendar and notes without sending my stuff over to icloud. I also use spotify instead of apple music. Unfortunately as you say I am forced to use ios and safari but it's not that important. Regarding degoogling, there are lots of free services that do everything you want. How many free email, calendar and contacts providers are there? You can create a microsoft account and use some of their services too - they provide online office for free, and photo storage as well. No alternative to youtube but you can choose not to sign in when browsing videos and use RSS to subscribe to channels. And so on and so forth. "sign in with google" is an awful idea - if they ban your account you will lose not only your google account but accounts on other services as well. You have an Android phone and a Chromebook but you can still use these third party services on them.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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      - veave 3y ago
        I use an Apple ID, of course. I need it to download stuff from the store. But I don't buy apps or music with it. If it gets banned I just create another; no harm done, no money or data lost. (Luckily that hasn't happened yet). You can do the same with Android. >Now you want me to sign up with Microsoft. What's the logic in Microsoft? They never ban anyone? Nobody ever loses their account/email from Microsoft? You seem to miss the entire point of this conversation. All companies can ban you for no reason. Therefore you have to spread your data as widely as you can so that when it happens, you lose as little data as possible. You don't need to increase your "support budget" for using more services. Keeping your mail in GMX instead of Gmail won't take you any more time.
        NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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        barrysteve 3y ago
        You say you're not a sys admin anymore, you're a user. A user with 800 passwords to manage. It may be comfortable for you (despite your sole reliance on one company and an inability to leave it). In fact, I hope it is comfortable for you. Your testimony is basically a modern era journal of a man's life owned by Google. There is no reason why digital life needs to be so complex. The vendor lock-in is eerily similar to the strict rules and legalism of the old Empire, just hidden behind code structures and service fees. "freedom" really is shaking out to be more 'dom' than 'free'.
McDyver 3y ago
If your landlady is frequently brought up on unrelated sites by her other tenants saying she just evicted them without apparent cause or appeal, then maybe your landlady might cause you problems sooner or later.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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  - behringer 3y ago
    I personally know multiple individuals with inaccessible google accounts. I'm sure there's millions of lost accounts. They're just gone, period. They're not happy about it, but what can you do? Best I can tell them is post about it on HN.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      Some of my friends are Black, too. If there are 2 million lost accounts since Google's inception, then there are 0.1% of all accounts lost. And why are they lost? Account loss comes from many factors: failing to secure it and being hacked. Losing passwords or credentials. Abandonment. Inactivity. TOS violations. Death of user. There are many reasons accounts could be lost, and almost none of those reasons are no reason at all.
- savanaly 3y ago
  If any given landlady served as many people as Google does you can be damn sure she would be brought up on all sorts of unrelated sites daily no matter how excellent she was. Being great is no match for having hundreds of millions of customers in terms of avoiding mistakes.
mcpackieh 3y ago
> describes a life incredibly reliant on Google > receives warning to diversify and feigns taking it as a personal insult > throws around the word incel I'm pretty sure this guy is just trolling.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
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  - flangola7 3y ago
    > Nah the trolls are the comrades spreading FUD about band for nyet reazonz and GTFO Google because Chernobyl could happen at any time I think you are trolling as well and may even be a sock puppet account. Reasonable concerns have been presented, not "FUD." Dismissing them out of hand is done so with unjustified confidence.
- behringer 3y ago
  he's also doing the ol' but what about you? We're not talking about me, we're talking about you lol. If we always did what's best there'd be no posts like this on HN. We learn from experience and try to give advice based on that.