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I remember fixing up a CRT on an arcade machine I had in my office at work at one point. I read up on how to discharge it and made a makeshift tool to do the jo

by allenu 3y ago

I remember fixing up a CRT on an arcade machine I had in my office at work at one point. I read up on how to discharge it and made a makeshift tool to do the job (i.e. an insulated screwdriver with a wire attached to ground). I was pretty scared and even made sure to do it during work hours when others would be around in case I got zapped unconscious. :) Once I got was able to do it a couple of times, it really was no big deal, but I did take care not to get too close to the back of it while the thing was on and exposed.

sixothree 3y ago
Worse, it’s never been made clear to me which parts are the dangerous one. Just a lot of vague hand waving. Which I guess is fine if you don’t want liability?
- Hydraulix989 3y ago
  If you're not sure about it, best to stay away. With a cursory web search or YouTube search, you can find plenty of information.
- formerly_proven 3y ago
  That’s probably because most people posting this useful advice don’t know themselves.
- somat 3y ago
  If unsure or nervous around electricity, just ground the segment you are working on first. But the parts that should make you extra cautious have wires with a lot of insulation so they look thick. those are the 20Kv bits. you also will want to take the time to drain any big capacitors. you can just short the leads or if you are feeling conscientious(and don't like sparks) drain them with a resister(100kohms or so) between the leads.
- rwmj 3y ago
  The cathode ray tube is a giant capacitor. During operation it is charged to 20+ kilovolts, and it takes a long time to discharge even after being unplugged from the wall. (Some but by no means all TVs have a circuit which discharges the tube). There are also large capacitors in the power supply which maintain hundreds of volts even after being unplugged. When the TV is connected to power, the flyback transformer (a large circular device soldered to the main board) generates a range of voltages from hundreds up to 20+ kV which are wired to various parts of the tube. Some of these are present on the neck board which is exposed at the pointy end of the tube. US TVs are extra spicy because they sometimes have no earth, so if the power is wired backwards (either in the plug or more insidiously from the wall), everything metal inside the set can be live. If you overvolt the tube (a worry with this replacement board actually) then it can emit x-rays. Most "modern" CRT main boards have a circuit which detects this, but maybe older ones or cheap knock-offs don't. In short, if you don't know what you're doing, stay away.
  - sixothree 3y ago
    Ok. I can identify all of those parts and once did a cap replacement on a pac-man monitor. But that's enough to keep me from making it a regular thing.
willis936 3y ago
A few sets I've had need to be on and open to make adjustments. I'm never a fan of that.
rwmj 3y ago
This is a case where having the right tool is actually a good idea. It'll have plenty of insulation and usually a VU meter showing the voltage (so you can see if it was charged and watch it drain). A screwdriver doesn't really have enough separation between you and the 20+ kV :-/
- uncletaco 3y ago
  In what cases of repair is having the right tools not a good idea?
  - 7speter 3y ago
    Its not a matter of not having the right tool is not a good idea, but sometimes, because of cost and or circumstances, you have to improvise and/or make due with what you have.

by allenu 3y ago

sixothree 3y ago

Worse, it’s never been made clear to me which parts are the dangerous one. Just a lot of vague hand waving. Which I guess is fine if you don’t want liability?

Hydraulix989 3y ago
If you're not sure about it, best to stay away. With a cursory web search or YouTube search, you can find plenty of information.
formerly_proven 3y ago
That’s probably because most people posting this useful advice don’t know themselves.
somat 3y ago
If unsure or nervous around electricity, just ground the segment you are working on first. But the parts that should make you extra cautious have wires with a lot of insulation so they look thick. those are the 20Kv bits. you also will want to take the time to drain any big capacitors. you can just short the leads or if you are feeling conscientious(and don't like sparks) drain them with a resister(100kohms or so) between the leads.
rwmj 3y ago
The cathode ray tube is a giant capacitor. During operation it is charged to 20+ kilovolts, and it takes a long time to discharge even after being unplugged from the wall. (Some but by no means all TVs have a circuit which discharges the tube). There are also large capacitors in the power supply which maintain hundreds of volts even after being unplugged. When the TV is connected to power, the flyback transformer (a large circular device soldered to the main board) generates a range of voltages from hundreds up to 20+ kV which are wired to various parts of the tube. Some of these are present on the neck board which is exposed at the pointy end of the tube. US TVs are extra spicy because they sometimes have no earth, so if the power is wired backwards (either in the plug or more insidiously from the wall), everything metal inside the set can be live. If you overvolt the tube (a worry with this replacement board actually) then it can emit x-rays. Most "modern" CRT main boards have a circuit which detects this, but maybe older ones or cheap knock-offs don't. In short, if you don't know what you're doing, stay away.
- sixothree 3y ago
  Ok. I can identify all of those parts and once did a cap replacement on a pac-man monitor. But that's enough to keep me from making it a regular thing.

willis936 3y ago

A few sets I've had need to be on and open to make adjustments. I'm never a fan of that.

rwmj 3y ago

This is a case where having the right tool is actually a good idea. It'll have plenty of insulation and usually a VU meter showing the voltage (so you can see if it was charged and watch it drain). A screwdriver doesn't really have enough separation between you and the 20+ kV :-/

uncletaco 3y ago
In what cases of repair is having the right tools not a good idea?
- 7speter 3y ago
  Its not a matter of not having the right tool is not a good idea, but sometimes, because of cost and or circumstances, you have to improvise and/or make due with what you have.