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You can build this with what Github offers for free to open source projects.
by jupp0r 3y ago
You can build this with what Github offers for free to open source projects.
- flamey 3y agoGitHub offers doesn't pay for motivation to do the upkeep.
- prepend 3y agoBut it reduces the cost of upkeep so now we need less motivation.
- 1-6 3y agoI like where this discussion is headed. Scrape the ToS and keep a record of that. Are ToS's copywrited?
- raffraffraff 3y agoThe problem is that these documents aren't served from standardized or predictable URLs across every service provider or regulatory body. I work with a firm who charge heaps of money to provide large companies with publicly available documents. Why do they pay? Because finding the latest copy of 25 different legal docs is a pain in the ass because the entire internet is a broken mess of 404s, over a long enough timeline.
- pwdisswordfishc 3y agoYes, at some point someone has probably written a copy.
- withinboredom 3y agoI thought contracts can’t be copyrighted? There is too much similarity between them for it to make any sense.
- hnbad 3y agoNo, that's nonsense. I don't know if there's a special exemption in the US but contracts and policies can be and absolutely are under copyright. Individual clauses might not be but the contract in its entirety likely meets the threshold of originality required for it to not simply be considered a plain collection of facts. The similarity between standard contracts does make it harder to demonstrate a copyright violation based on the text alone though.
- withinboredom 3y agoSo, you’re saying only one company in the history of the world can install garages, or every company that wants to install garages must pay that company or ensure that it’s contracts are distinctly different so they don’t get sued? That sounds absurd. What country is this?
- thephyber 3y agoThat’s not what your parent said and you jumped a lot of logical steps to get where you did. No form of intellectual property applies to “in the history of the world” — all IPs expire their monopoly protections after a period of time. And yes, contracts must be distinctly different from copyrighted contracts. [1] Just because computers and the internet allow copy-paste of content with no effort does not mean it is necessarily legal. [1] https://www.upcounsel.com/are-contracts-copyrighted#using-someone-else-s-contract-is-it-legal https://www.upcounsel.com/are-contracts-copyrighted#using-so...
- withinboredom 3y agoI’m not sure what “logical steps” I jumped. All you have to do is prove someone else is selling garages and they stole your copyright in a violation of derivative work. It’s absurd to think copyrights can be be applied to contracts. It’s a hill I’d be willing to die on if someone sued me for it.
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- hnbad 3y agoYes, legal documents have copyright. This also means you can't take shortcuts by copying an existing privacy policy or ToS instead of writing your own unless you have their copyright holder's permission (which likely isn't even the person/company itself unless it was written by an in-house legal department). This also means you are likely violating copyright if you publish a contract you signed -- although you can of course summarize or rephrase it unless there is a valid NDA (most aren't). So technically scraping and republishing old ToS'es would be a copyright violation. You might have a case for fair use but then it becomes difficult to monetize the service.
- toastal 3y agoGitHub is also ran by a untrustworthy megacorp with a ToS. Just wait til the ToS changes to where you can’t use it to told others accountable.
- nanidin 3y agoI think that one of the benefits of dvcs is that it's relatively easy to move to another provider or self host, and that everyone that cloned has a copy.
- jb1991 3y agoThe cost of Github is not the cost referred to here.
- oever 3y agoCatch 22: first agree to the Microsoft GitHub ToS. Or you can use a friendlier service like the one provided by Codeberg. https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/what-is-codeberg/#what-is-codeberg-e.v.%3F https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/what-is-codeberg/#...
- MikusR 3y agoWhat is this then? https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/src/branch/main/TermsOfUse.md https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/src/branch/main/TermsOfUse...
- FireInsight 3y agoEverything has a terms of use. Codeberg is still way better for privacy and freedom.
- prepend 3y agoThey seem equally good for privacy and freedom.
- j-bos 3y agoWell consumers of the diff aren't yet required to agree.
- Jon_Lowtek 3y agoGitHubs privacy policy towards end users says they collect usage information and telemetry, among other data. So you host a project comparing ToS on GitHub and Microsoft collects information about anyone viewing the project, who referred them, their browser fingerprint and much more. This usage data might, depending on technical design, even enable them to collect fingerprints on features like opening the comment trees of specific contract clause.
- jupp0r 3y agoAt least you'll know when Githubs ToS change ....