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In Europe they can't drive normal cars before 18. They will be able to to so after 17 if accompanied by an adult and will be subject to a probation period of 2

by petre 3y ago

In Europe they can't drive normal cars before 18. They will be able to to so after 17 if accompanied by an adult and will be subject to a probation period of 2 years after taking the test. Also speed "limitiers" will be required in all new vehicles after 2024. Most of these would probably be audible nags, like the one that beeps if one drives without the seatbelt. https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/european-commission-proposes-updated-requirements-driving-licences-and-better-cross-border-2023-03-01_en https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/european-com...

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renewiltord 3y ago
Absolutely insane that your society allows children to experiment on unwitting people without consent.
- petre 3y ago
  What are you talking about?
  - renewiltord 3y ago
    You have untrained people using multi-ton motorized equipment on streets where people cross. And you don't even ask them if they'd be okay with this experiment. At least a bit unethical.
    - petre 3y ago
      They have to take a test after training. Also a two year probation with zero tolerance on drunk driving and other offenses.
      - yazaddaruvala 3y ago
        Should we give the robots the same test, if they pass they get the drivers license? Seems like a low bar to me - for both robots and humans. We should instead raise the standards even higher for both!
        Gabrys1 3y ago
        I don't see why we wouldn't make a robotaxis pass driving exams. Also, I don't see how would this help. Most accidents are caused by licensed drivers
        yazaddaruvala 3y ago
        > Most accidents are caused by licensed drivers Exactly, the point I’ve been trying to emphasize is: The bar to become a driver in California is really LOW. We should push for the robots to be even better, but given the low bar for humans, I don’t see a good reason to stop them from training on public roads.

by petre 3y ago

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renewiltord 3y ago

Absolutely insane that your society allows children to experiment on unwitting people without consent.

petre 3y ago
What are you talking about?
- renewiltord 3y ago
  You have untrained people using multi-ton motorized equipment on streets where people cross. And you don't even ask them if they'd be okay with this experiment. At least a bit unethical.
  - petre 3y ago
    They have to take a test after training. Also a two year probation with zero tolerance on drunk driving and other offenses.
    - yazaddaruvala 3y ago
      Should we give the robots the same test, if they pass they get the drivers license? Seems like a low bar to me - for both robots and humans. We should instead raise the standards even higher for both!
      - Gabrys1 3y ago
        I don't see why we wouldn't make a robotaxis pass driving exams. Also, I don't see how would this help. Most accidents are caused by licensed drivers
        yazaddaruvala 3y ago
        > Most accidents are caused by licensed drivers Exactly, the point I’ve been trying to emphasize is: The bar to become a driver in California is really LOW. We should push for the robots to be even better, but given the low bar for humans, I don’t see a good reason to stop them from training on public roads.