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Woah, this hit Hacker News and Twitter before I expected. I started contacting people today to start organizing this and created the site to have a point of dis

by philips 15y ago

Woah, this hit Hacker News and Twitter before I expected. I started contacting people today to start organizing this and created the site to have a point of discussion. If you want to discuss ideas, sponsorship or venue stuff email me directly or post to the Google Group. If you want to discuss in person stop by 231 27th St. SF, CA. cconf@googlegroups.com brandon.cconf@ifup.org

cperciva 15y ago
Discussion is good, but it needs to start somewhere. All you've got -- or at least, all you've published -- is a vague list of ideas, most of which would individually make a big conference. A conference is defined as much by what it isn't as by what it is. Start by narrowing your scope a bit; a conference which is about everything relating to the single most widely used language in the history of computer programming isn't even remotely feasible.
- philips 15y ago
  Yes, the current list is a dump of possible ideas. I am focusing on contacting people behind newish ideas and best practices. There is a lot of innovation but I don't know if it get disseminated out of certain communities e.g. CCAN, libabc, compile time code hardening and gyp Would love your help narrowing scope.
- mvzink 15y ago
  I agree completely. No idea if Brandon intended to sign himself up for this, but it seems like if somebody takes point on actually getting this conference started (provided they narrow it down as you suggest), that's simply the tipping point from nothing into a conference actually happening. So even if the plan isn't perfect yet (and certainly there is more to be said about than than even your comments), it still has a much larger chance of happing now that Brandon has gotten the proverbial ball rolling with this post. I am excited, personally!
- jfarmer 15y ago
  Chill, man. It's clear he posted this as a "Here's a good idea, let's start to flesh it out" sort of page, and it got exposure before it had even been fleshed out. I'm sure he's looking for people who are really excited about making it happen to help him do just that. I think this is a fine way to go about it. Two weeks from now nobody will remember that this took off on GitHub, HN, Twitter, etc. If you like the idea, or even just the potential of the idea, why don't you offer up useful suggestions instead of being uselessly critical? What would you want to see? Since it needs more focus, where would you focus it? If you were giving a talk, what would you give? Do you know anyone who would be excited about helping to organize it? If I were Brandon, I'd be ecstatic that this took root so quickly and people are already responding emotionally -- even if negatively.
  - cperciva 15y ago
    why don't you offer up useful suggestions instead of being uselessly critical? I thought "you need to narrow your scope" was a useful suggestion. I guess you think differently.
    - zedshaw 15y ago
      No, a suggestion would be: "You need to narrow your scope. I personally would be more interested in X and Y, but not Z, J, or N." What you did was give a vague criticism without offering a concrete solution in response. Those kinds of criticisms are always difficult to respond to primarily because, should he follow your suggestion and it fail, you can simply say: "Well I just said narrow your scope, I never said narrow it to those failed topics."
      - cperciva 15y ago
        I'm not so egotistical as to think that the topics which interest me would be the ones which interest lots of other people. In fact, I have ample evidence to the contrary.
        jfarmer 15y ago

by philips 15y ago

cperciva 15y ago

Discussion is good, but it needs to start somewhere. All you've got -- or at least, all you've published -- is a vague list of ideas, most of which would individually make a big conference. A conference is defined as much by what it isn't as by what it is. Start by narrowing your scope a bit; a conference which is about everything relating to the single most widely used language in the history of computer programming isn't even remotely feasible.

philips 15y ago
Yes, the current list is a dump of possible ideas. I am focusing on contacting people behind newish ideas and best practices. There is a lot of innovation but I don't know if it get disseminated out of certain communities e.g. CCAN, libabc, compile time code hardening and gyp Would love your help narrowing scope.
mvzink 15y ago
I agree completely. No idea if Brandon intended to sign himself up for this, but it seems like if somebody takes point on actually getting this conference started (provided they narrow it down as you suggest), that's simply the tipping point from nothing into a conference actually happening. So even if the plan isn't perfect yet (and certainly there is more to be said about than than even your comments), it still has a much larger chance of happing now that Brandon has gotten the proverbial ball rolling with this post. I am excited, personally!
jfarmer 15y ago
Chill, man. It's clear he posted this as a "Here's a good idea, let's start to flesh it out" sort of page, and it got exposure before it had even been fleshed out. I'm sure he's looking for people who are really excited about making it happen to help him do just that. I think this is a fine way to go about it. Two weeks from now nobody will remember that this took off on GitHub, HN, Twitter, etc. If you like the idea, or even just the potential of the idea, why don't you offer up useful suggestions instead of being uselessly critical? What would you want to see? Since it needs more focus, where would you focus it? If you were giving a talk, what would you give? Do you know anyone who would be excited about helping to organize it? If I were Brandon, I'd be ecstatic that this took root so quickly and people are already responding emotionally -- even if negatively.
- cperciva 15y ago
  why don't you offer up useful suggestions instead of being uselessly critical? I thought "you need to narrow your scope" was a useful suggestion. I guess you think differently.
  - zedshaw 15y ago
    No, a suggestion would be: "You need to narrow your scope. I personally would be more interested in X and Y, but not Z, J, or N." What you did was give a vague criticism without offering a concrete solution in response. Those kinds of criticisms are always difficult to respond to primarily because, should he follow your suggestion and it fail, you can simply say: "Well I just said narrow your scope, I never said narrow it to those failed topics."
    - cperciva 15y ago
      I'm not so egotistical as to think that the topics which interest me would be the ones which interest lots of other people. In fact, I have ample evidence to the contrary.
      - jfarmer 15y ago