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I'm just surprised there are apparently that many people who are (a) running around yelling racial slurs (b) as if it is a routine thing people do and (c) equat

by flkiwi 3y ago

I'm just surprised there are apparently that many people who are (a) running around yelling racial slurs (b) as if it is a routine thing people do and (c) equating yelling hate speech as "swearing". I mean, I grew up with goatse. I'm not a wilting flower. But I don't know anyone who regularly uses racial hate speech and the rate of gender, sexuality, and nationality hate speech I hear is ... single percentages of what it was. And that's a good thing. I'm having a hard time understanding that a private company cultivating a welcoming environment to the people who pay its bills is a bad thing.

rcxdude 3y ago
The thing is, with stuff like this, it doesn't really need to be many people. This applies online and IRL. Even if <1% of people are unhinged enough to be shouting abuse at a particular group (or just at anyone in general) whenever they see one of them online or in public, members of that group will regularly experience that abuse, because in public or in online gameplay you interact with quite a lot of different people.
- flkiwi 3y ago
  Oh absolutely, but I'm sort of sampling from the group on this thread. There's a surprising amount of "just mute it" as if the burden of not hearing slurs should fall on the hearer. Purely as a practical matter, a private company competing in many lucrative and sensitive markets isn't going to tolerate diluting its goodwill by becoming known as the place where hate speech is accepted. One user managed to scare TWO advertisers off "X". That's without even reaching the morality issue. (Lots of folks also equating profanity with hate speech, which is bizarre. If I were in a PUBG lobby and someone called me a mfer, I would laugh. If they called me a <n-word> <f-word> <k-word>, I would leave and never come back.)

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I'm just surprised there are apparently that many people who are (a) running around yelling racial slurs (b) as if it is a routine thing people do and (c) equat

by flkiwi 3y ago

rcxdude 3y ago
The thing is, with stuff like this, it doesn't really need to be many people. This applies online and IRL. Even if <1% of people are unhinged enough to be shouting abuse at a particular group (or just at anyone in general) whenever they see one of them online or in public, members of that group will regularly experience that abuse, because in public or in online gameplay you interact with quite a lot of different people.
- flkiwi 3y ago
  Oh absolutely, but I'm sort of sampling from the group on this thread. There's a surprising amount of "just mute it" as if the burden of not hearing slurs should fall on the hearer. Purely as a practical matter, a private company competing in many lucrative and sensitive markets isn't going to tolerate diluting its goodwill by becoming known as the place where hate speech is accepted. One user managed to scare TWO advertisers off "X". That's without even reaching the morality issue. (Lots of folks also equating profanity with hate speech, which is bizarre. If I were in a PUBG lobby and someone called me a mfer, I would laugh. If they called me a <n-word> <f-word> <k-word>, I would leave and never come back.)