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Unpopular opinion, but Microsoft should not be making the ban decisions. If I paid $80 to buy a game, then paid additional $60 to Microsoft to be able to play m

Unpopular opinion, but Microsoft should not be making the ban decisions. If I paid $80 to buy a game, then paid additional $60 to Microsoft to be able to play multiplayer games, I am sorry but it’s up to the games to enforce any rules they want. Some game lobbies are inherently toxic and if I get banned for profanities from all games, then that’s complete bs. It’s like your ISP disconnecting your internet because your were in an argument on Facebook.

georgyo 3y ago
The complications here is that all voice, messages, and identities are going through the Xbox live servers. Facebook is a bad example. Facebook has many games on their platform. Getting banned from Facebook would ban you from all those games.
- darth_avocado 3y ago
  The question is not whether getting banned on Xbox would ban you from all the games or not, the question is whether Xbox should be able to ban you entirely.
  - Alghranokk 3y ago
    It is their platform. Xbox has no legal or even moral obligation to provide services for people who cannot maintain the basic standards of civilized behaviour.
    - darth_avocado 3y ago
      Have you ever talked to a teenager? Also, if you’ve ever used Xbox, you’d know that their moderation at best is bad. People using literal slurs don’t get punished, while dropping an f bomb at no one in particular can get you banned.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      > It is their platform. That's the problem. They shouldn't be able to own the platform. There should be no platform for them to own to begin with. They shouldn't have the power to ban anyone nor should there be any place to be banned from. You're gonna speak of moral obligations while defending DRM'd platforms owned by copyright monopolists? You gotta be kidding me.
    - polski-g 3y ago
      True. And they should refund your money after they ban you.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
You didn't buy the game. You licensed it. They're merely allowing you to play the game. Aren't they generous? They reserve the right to revoke that authorization for any reason at all including no reason so better not piss them off if you don't want to watch your money evaporate.

georgyo 3y ago

The complications here is that all voice, messages, and identities are going through the Xbox live servers. Facebook is a bad example. Facebook has many games on their platform. Getting banned from Facebook would ban you from all those games.

darth_avocado 3y ago
The question is not whether getting banned on Xbox would ban you from all the games or not, the question is whether Xbox should be able to ban you entirely.
- Alghranokk 3y ago
  It is their platform. Xbox has no legal or even moral obligation to provide services for people who cannot maintain the basic standards of civilized behaviour.
  - darth_avocado 3y ago
    Have you ever talked to a teenager? Also, if you’ve ever used Xbox, you’d know that their moderation at best is bad. People using literal slurs don’t get punished, while dropping an f bomb at no one in particular can get you banned.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    > It is their platform. That's the problem. They shouldn't be able to own the platform. There should be no platform for them to own to begin with. They shouldn't have the power to ban anyone nor should there be any place to be banned from. You're gonna speak of moral obligations while defending DRM'd platforms owned by copyright monopolists? You gotta be kidding me.
  - polski-g 3y ago
    True. And they should refund your money after they ban you.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

You didn't buy the game. You licensed it. They're merely allowing you to play the game. Aren't they generous? They reserve the right to revoke that authorization for any reason at all including no reason so better not piss them off if you don't want to watch your money evaporate.