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For the past several thousand years, people have generally been able to get away with being an asshole (both criminal and less than criminal) as long as they ar
by csours 3y ago
For the past several thousand years, people have generally been able to get away with being an asshole (both criminal and less than criminal) as long as they are very productive in some other way. Very recently, some people have stopped getting away with this. It's very very good to hold people accountable.
I also think that it is bad that there is no path to rehabilitation. Well, there is no single path to rehabilitation, because the world contains many people with a variety of points of view.
But remember that it is bad to harass and assault people. That should not be ignored. The linked post does not seem to cover that very much, or to show any action that the person has taken that would make them more welcome in a professional setting.
> History has many examples of the negative impacts of excommunicating individuals according to questionable standards that are analogous to what happened to Geoff Marcy. Over the past century we have seen numerous such examples across the political spectrum, in the name of moral virtue.
I must disagree in the strongest terms to this section. This does not acknowledge any harms or any balance of responsibility on the part of Marcy.
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Also, the title is just plain wrong. It is not guilt by association, it is disgust at including a person who has caused harm. Every objection listed from the scientific community was because Marcy was directly attached, either to a paper, a group, or a meeting.
- _dain_ 3y ago>It's very very good to hold people accountable. Passive voice. Who watches the watchers, who accounts for the accountability-bringers?
- csours 3y agoWell, the organizations that employ and empower them would be a good place to start.
- Planktonne 3y agoThat's not passive voice. Passive voice would be "It's very, very good for people to be held accountable".