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Where? Quote me. I'm telling you, this is the only part of the thread I've replied to. Maybe you should take a good hard look at yourself before accusing others

Where? Quote me. I'm telling you, this is the only part of the thread I've replied to. Maybe you should take a good hard look at yourself before accusing others.

sanderjd 3y ago
Oh you're right, I was thinking of another comment in this same thread. Mea culpa! But my criticism of your attitude stands. If this is how you responded to developers on your team making obvious suggestions about how to make documentation useful to them, then it's no wonder you've had this problem of people not reading documentation. Again, this just isn't a problem most teams have, because there are good solutions.
- lylejantzi3rd 3y ago
  Similarly, if you were on my team, I'd probably fire you[0]. You have no self-awareness. You've doubled down on your flawed misinterpretation of my attitude, even though you've already admitted you came to that conclusion in error. You're the type of person who can't ever be wrong. That sort of thing is murder on morale. [0]: After multiple warnings, inevitable complaints from the other team members, efforts to help you improve, etc. I don't fire people willy nilly.
  - sanderjd 3y ago
    Edit to start with this: I think you're right that I was too hasty with my "you need to look in the mirror" comment, and this whole discussion would have gone better without that comment. So I'm sorry about that one! Ha, I sincerely doubt our higher-context interactions in an actual working environment would go the same way as our internet strangers with no context discussion. But it is definitely possibly that we wouldn't ever be working together. Right from the jump, the way you framed the question of "how do I get devs to do what I want them to" suggested that you're more a top down do-what-I-say leader than a servant leader, and that's fine but it's not the style of organization I look for when evaluating hiring managers. Then you aggressively dismissed a frankly very boring suggestion that has been a best practice for decades. Which was just a weird reaction IMO. But again, I suspect you would be more tactful about your response to it in an actual workplace, and I would probably be less likely to tell you how strange I found your rejection of such a simple suggestion. But my mea culpa was about forgetting which thread I saw your comments in, not about my evaluation of your (to me) pretty mystifying attitude about this.
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Where? Quote me. I'm telling you, this is the only part of the thread I've replied to. Maybe you should take a good hard look at yourself before accusing others.

sanderjd 3y ago

Oh you're right, I was thinking of another comment in this same thread. Mea culpa! But my criticism of your attitude stands. If this is how you responded to developers on your team making obvious suggestions about how to make documentation useful to them, then it's no wonder you've had this problem of people not reading documentation. Again, this just isn't a problem most teams have, because there are good solutions.

lylejantzi3rd 3y ago
Similarly, if you were on my team, I'd probably fire you[0]. You have no self-awareness. You've doubled down on your flawed misinterpretation of my attitude, even though you've already admitted you came to that conclusion in error. You're the type of person who can't ever be wrong. That sort of thing is murder on morale. [0]: After multiple warnings, inevitable complaints from the other team members, efforts to help you improve, etc. I don't fire people willy nilly.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  Edit to start with this: I think you're right that I was too hasty with my "you need to look in the mirror" comment, and this whole discussion would have gone better without that comment. So I'm sorry about that one! Ha, I sincerely doubt our higher-context interactions in an actual working environment would go the same way as our internet strangers with no context discussion. But it is definitely possibly that we wouldn't ever be working together. Right from the jump, the way you framed the question of "how do I get devs to do what I want them to" suggested that you're more a top down do-what-I-say leader than a servant leader, and that's fine but it's not the style of organization I look for when evaluating hiring managers. Then you aggressively dismissed a frankly very boring suggestion that has been a best practice for decades. Which was just a weird reaction IMO. But again, I suspect you would be more tactful about your response to it in an actual workplace, and I would probably be less likely to tell you how strange I found your rejection of such a simple suggestion. But my mea culpa was about forgetting which thread I saw your comments in, not about my evaluation of your (to me) pretty mystifying attitude about this.
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