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Apple searlized the iPhone 14 backglass [video]

19 points by susanthenerd 3y ago

rolobio 3y ago
Looks like the wireless charging assembly is serialized, not the literal glass. Very frustrating and anti-repair.
chomp 3y ago
Any better source than a Youtube short? iFixit tested already what you can and cannot replace on an iPhone 14 here: https://www.ifixit.com/News/66879/iphone-14-parts-pairing-results-apple-is-still-trying-to-monopolise-repair https://www.ifixit.com/News/66879/iphone-14-parts-pairing-re... Maybe the person in the video missed something?
- goldcd 3y ago
  No iFixit did "Back Glass + Wireless Charging Coil Functional: No adverse effects have been reported thus far." We can now correct this to say that pictures taken with the flash will no longer be saved.
- susanthenerd 3y ago
  Yeah, but nobody reported on this issue before.
netsharc 3y ago
Video with seekable interface: https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLEOiQdDkzk https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLEOiQdDkzk (at least on desktop; YMMV) Geez, TikTok (basically) content on HN...
- skyyler 3y ago
  s/embed/v https://www.youtube.com/v/fLEOiQdDkzk https://www.youtube.com/v/fLEOiQdDkzk this gives you a normal looking youtube page
- scohesc 3y ago
  That's the most frustrating part for me with Tiktok, Youtube shorts, instagram etc. I wish you could scrobble through a video - it's more frustrating on Youtube because you always could and now all of a sudden you can't, and now videos 60 seconds or less get auto-converted into shorts (from what I've understood). Very annoying. Whoever designed this knew what they were doing on an addictions/product/customer retainment level because it sure wasn't a usability/UI engineer that made this decision.
  - mxmilkiib 3y ago
    I just realised the other day after many many months that one can scrub through IG Reels with the bar at the bottom.
    - netsharc 3y ago
      I think only for reels which are longer than a certain time length...
- jader201 3y ago
  Regardless of the UI, I really don't like the video trends that are popular these days, including: - Heavily edited to remove pauses so that the whole video sounds like one long sentence. - Always shot vertically. - Every. Word. Appearing. In. The. Middle. Of. The. Screen. As. Its. Spoken. Sorry for the tangential rant.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - jwineinger 3y ago
    I appreciate having captions b/c I'm often watching in situations where I don't want to or can't hear audio.
    - jader201 3y ago
      Even so, I much prefer normal captions with full sentences vs. words popping on and off the screen at 10 words per second. Could you imagine consuming normal content that way (e.g. HN threads)? That would be anxiety inducing (and honestly, these types of videos are probably causing some level of anxiety to some people without them even realizing it).
      - netsharc 3y ago
        On that topic, ever noticed how ChatGPT's answers are animated?
  - dylan604 3y ago
    > - Always shot horizontally. you mean vertically?
    - jader201 3y ago
      Indeed, fixed!
  - MerelyMortal 3y ago
- tric 3y ago
  > Geez, TikTok (basically) content on HN... The aggression, quick cuts, single word subtitles... I don't understand the appeal of this style. I wonder how people will look back at this era of video editing in 10 years.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - hindsightbias 3y ago
    OK boomer, strike that, 20-something? In 10 years something even more horrible will be hip and tiktok'ers will be whatever dated slang there is for big yikes.
veave 3y ago
As an Apple client: good that they keep working on anti-theft measures. I hope they end up serialising every last bit of the phone.
- plutaniano 3y ago
  As someone who lives in a country where pickpocketing and theft are really common: agreed. If making an iCloud-locked iPhone and all of its parts useless is what it takes to make pickpocketing not worth it, i'm all for it.
pengaru 3y ago
> Apple searlized the iPhone 14 backglass [video] searlized? srsly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8
scohesc 3y ago
Apple continues to push the envelope when it comes to product design and anti third-party repair. They must really hold the quality of their devices to such a high standard, that even people who would willingly accept the "risk" of installing third-party components (or first-party from the manufacturer!), can't install the parts in their phones because it'll cause problems. Not to mention the software Apple uses to "link" each part in a phone together so it removes issues like this is closed source and not really available to anybody so even if you did replace parts yourself you still can't use them! They call themselves green and climate friendly, but it doesn't seem so friendly when you can't even re-use components from other phones that are broken to fix yours!
- sbuk 3y ago
  I'd suggest that this has at least as much to do with theft deterrent than just being 'anti-repair'; as a deterrent, it seems effective.
readthenotes1 3y ago
What is "searlized" ? Given all the negative backlash on the actual video, I'm not sure I will learn by watching it. Did they heat it up so much that it can't be taken off without being broken?
- ahahahahah 3y ago
  If the topic doesn't even interest you enough to click the link, maybe skip posting a low quality comment on it.
  - readthenotes1 3y ago
    It did interest me, but I find even decent videos tediously time wasting over reading speed.
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y ago
  The wireless charging assembly has a serial number that's programmed into the phone at manufacturing time. Replacing that assembly (glued to the back glass) with one having a different serial number causes photos taken with flash to fail to save.
dzhiurgis 3y ago
> nfc chip > no logical reason why apple does this How can he be serious
RA2lover 3y ago
Waiting for independent replication. Assuming it is proven true, this is unlike other attempts at crippling repairs from Apple as it's affecting behavior that is completely unrelated to the replaced module(the flash being implementable as a passive component). I wonder if the lawsuit against HP for disabling scanning when low on ink could set a precedent usable against this.

19 points by susanthenerd 3y ago

Looks like the wireless charging assembly is serialized, not the literal glass. Very frustrating and anti-repair.

Any better source than a Youtube short? iFixit tested already what you can and cannot replace on an iPhone 14 here: https://www.ifixit.com/News/66879/iphone-14-parts-pairing-results-apple-is-still-trying-to-monopolise-repair https://www.ifixit.com/News/66879/iphone-14-parts-pairing-re... Maybe the person in the video missed something?

goldcd 3y ago
No iFixit did "Back Glass + Wireless Charging Coil Functional: No adverse effects have been reported thus far." We can now correct this to say that pictures taken with the flash will no longer be saved.
susanthenerd 3y ago
Yeah, but nobody reported on this issue before.

netsharc 3y ago

Video with seekable interface: https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLEOiQdDkzk https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLEOiQdDkzk (at least on desktop; YMMV) Geez, TikTok (basically) content on HN...

skyyler 3y ago
s/embed/v https://www.youtube.com/v/fLEOiQdDkzk https://www.youtube.com/v/fLEOiQdDkzk this gives you a normal looking youtube page
scohesc 3y ago
That's the most frustrating part for me with Tiktok, Youtube shorts, instagram etc. I wish you could scrobble through a video - it's more frustrating on Youtube because you always could and now all of a sudden you can't, and now videos 60 seconds or less get auto-converted into shorts (from what I've understood). Very annoying. Whoever designed this knew what they were doing on an addictions/product/customer retainment level because it sure wasn't a usability/UI engineer that made this decision.
- mxmilkiib 3y ago
  I just realised the other day after many many months that one can scrub through IG Reels with the bar at the bottom.
  - netsharc 3y ago
    I think only for reels which are longer than a certain time length...
jader201 3y ago
Regardless of the UI, I really don't like the video trends that are popular these days, including: - Heavily edited to remove pauses so that the whole video sounds like one long sentence. - Always shot vertically. - Every. Word. Appearing. In. The. Middle. Of. The. Screen. As. Its. Spoken. Sorry for the tangential rant.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- jwineinger 3y ago
  I appreciate having captions b/c I'm often watching in situations where I don't want to or can't hear audio.
  - jader201 3y ago
    Even so, I much prefer normal captions with full sentences vs. words popping on and off the screen at 10 words per second. Could you imagine consuming normal content that way (e.g. HN threads)? That would be anxiety inducing (and honestly, these types of videos are probably causing some level of anxiety to some people without them even realizing it).
    - netsharc 3y ago
      On that topic, ever noticed how ChatGPT's answers are animated?
- dylan604 3y ago
  > - Always shot horizontally. you mean vertically?
  - jader201 3y ago
    Indeed, fixed!
- MerelyMortal 3y ago
tric 3y ago
> Geez, TikTok (basically) content on HN... The aggression, quick cuts, single word subtitles... I don't understand the appeal of this style. I wonder how people will look back at this era of video editing in 10 years.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- hindsightbias 3y ago
  OK boomer, strike that, 20-something? In 10 years something even more horrible will be hip and tiktok'ers will be whatever dated slang there is for big yikes.

veave 3y ago

As an Apple client: good that they keep working on anti-theft measures. I hope they end up serialising every last bit of the phone.

plutaniano 3y ago
As someone who lives in a country where pickpocketing and theft are really common: agreed. If making an iCloud-locked iPhone and all of its parts useless is what it takes to make pickpocketing not worth it, i'm all for it.

pengaru 3y ago

> Apple searlized the iPhone 14 backglass [video] searlized? srsly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8

scohesc 3y ago

Apple continues to push the envelope when it comes to product design and anti third-party repair. They must really hold the quality of their devices to such a high standard, that even people who would willingly accept the "risk" of installing third-party components (or first-party from the manufacturer!), can't install the parts in their phones because it'll cause problems. Not to mention the software Apple uses to "link" each part in a phone together so it removes issues like this is closed source and not really available to anybody so even if you did replace parts yourself you still can't use them! They call themselves green and climate friendly, but it doesn't seem so friendly when you can't even re-use components from other phones that are broken to fix yours!

sbuk 3y ago
I'd suggest that this has at least as much to do with theft deterrent than just being 'anti-repair'; as a deterrent, it seems effective.

readthenotes1 3y ago

What is "searlized" ? Given all the negative backlash on the actual video, I'm not sure I will learn by watching it. Did they heat it up so much that it can't be taken off without being broken?

ahahahahah 3y ago
If the topic doesn't even interest you enough to click the link, maybe skip posting a low quality comment on it.
- readthenotes1 3y ago
  It did interest me, but I find even decent videos tediously time wasting over reading speed.
SAI_Peregrinus 3y ago
The wireless charging assembly has a serial number that's programmed into the phone at manufacturing time. Replacing that assembly (glued to the back glass) with one having a different serial number causes photos taken with flash to fail to save.

dzhiurgis 3y ago

> nfc chip > no logical reason why apple does this How can he be serious

RA2lover 3y ago

Waiting for independent replication. Assuming it is proven true, this is unlike other attempts at crippling repairs from Apple as it's affecting behavior that is completely unrelated to the replaced module(the flash being implementable as a passive component). I wonder if the lawsuit against HP for disabling scanning when low on ink could set a precedent usable against this.