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New Mexico and Arizona (Phoenix in particular) actually had a record-breaking heatwave this year, a full month of daily peak temperatures above 110 degrees Fahr

New Mexico and Arizona (Phoenix in particular) actually had a record-breaking heatwave this year, a full month of daily peak temperatures above 110 degrees Fahrenheit.

moritzwarhier 3y ago
Got your point, still a bit intrigued by OP's. I often have similar thoughts: if you expand the scope a bit and don't limit yourself to the metrics that are the topic du jour - this is not meant to diminish the severity of heatwaves, to the contrary - it seems like a natural law that the people who do the most damage to common goods (such as humane shelter and food, clean water, clean air, healthy environment, bearable noise pollution, bearable working conditions if you want to go there) - they are the people who profit and stand exactly on the other side, experiencing the absolute minimum of the damage they cause. This is a prisoners's dilemma or market failure that has infested all of our global society, to a point that we can't even start to imagine.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  Every species tries to maximize its use of available resources. Humans are the only ones that even think about the consequences (emphasis on think, actually doing something is more rare). I think we will continue to live as we do until we cannot. Then there will be a natural correction. It will probably be ugly for a while, then we will adapt. This is the history of the planet.
  - moritzwarhier 3y ago
    > Every species tries to maximize its use of available resources Do you think humans use oil, soil etc as efficiently as ants do? Or do you mean "consumption" when you say "use"? The way you put it sounds like you mean use ~= utility Claiming that our "bad conscience" does any good (speaking and writing, to be precise), increasingly proves wrong. There are just so many speakers and writers and thinkers with their own side of the prisoner's dilemma in mind
    - SoftTalker 3y ago
      I mean "exploit everything available to maximize one's chance for survival"
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37122796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37122796
trilbyglens 3y ago
Texas too, which tbh is probably the most egregious of all. It's 112° as I write this in Dallas.

New Mexico and Arizona (Phoenix in particular) actually had a record-breaking heatwave this year, a full month of daily peak temperatures above 110 degrees Fahrenheit.

moritzwarhier 3y ago

Got your point, still a bit intrigued by OP's. I often have similar thoughts: if you expand the scope a bit and don't limit yourself to the metrics that are the topic du jour - this is not meant to diminish the severity of heatwaves, to the contrary - it seems like a natural law that the people who do the most damage to common goods (such as humane shelter and food, clean water, clean air, healthy environment, bearable noise pollution, bearable working conditions if you want to go there) - they are the people who profit and stand exactly on the other side, experiencing the absolute minimum of the damage they cause. This is a prisoners's dilemma or market failure that has infested all of our global society, to a point that we can't even start to imagine.

SoftTalker 3y ago
Every species tries to maximize its use of available resources. Humans are the only ones that even think about the consequences (emphasis on think, actually doing something is more rare). I think we will continue to live as we do until we cannot. Then there will be a natural correction. It will probably be ugly for a while, then we will adapt. This is the history of the planet.
- moritzwarhier 3y ago
  > Every species tries to maximize its use of available resources Do you think humans use oil, soil etc as efficiently as ants do? Or do you mean "consumption" when you say "use"? The way you put it sounds like you mean use ~= utility Claiming that our "bad conscience" does any good (speaking and writing, to be precise), increasingly proves wrong. There are just so many speakers and writers and thinkers with their own side of the prisoner's dilemma in mind
  - SoftTalker 3y ago
    I mean "exploit everything available to maximize one's chance for survival"
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37122796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37122796

trilbyglens 3y ago

Texas too, which tbh is probably the most egregious of all. It's 112° as I write this in Dallas.