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> no one wants to work [hard] anymore Is the same quote as "the youth are all rude and don't respect their elders". In other words, always has been. There are

> no one wants to work [hard] anymore Is the same quote as "the youth are all rude and don't respect their elders". In other words, always has been. There are several groups of people who work hard: 1. people who must in order to survive - this exists less and less in successful "civilized" societies. It's never been easier to survive. you mostly see poorer folk or immigrants working hard 2. people who love what they do - there is always a subset of people who just love what they do. these people don't need anything else to work hard. Really good leaders can inspire others to love work they didn't before 3. people who have a compulsion that forces them to - and this is mostly from observation and talking to people - there are people who work very hard simply because their brains force them to. We can call it OCD or anxiety or workaholism or whatever, but the end result is these people must work or bad things happen to them The rest of us don't give a hoot and just do what we can. There are some exceptions here and there like maybe societal or cultural obligations or learned behaviors - e.g. "my dad worked hard and I love my dad so I must work hard too"

eternityforest 3y ago
But lots of people absolutely do still work hard. They go to the gym. Many people still want kids someday. They dream of living off grid on 40 acres. What they don't do is work hard for society, or actually at all. They work to prove or better themselves, IMHO largely because in modern culture, "based" is the new "cool", and society is not seen as based enough. People would rather be able to bench 220lbs, totally unpaid, with a huge amount of effort, than invent something that reduces data center energy consumption by a few percent and get a $20k bonus.
- rooftop-1 3y ago
  This sentiment you describe is probably more indicative of the distinct groups of people you hang out with. No one I know would be more interested in benching over making something actually useful. Also going to the gym isn’t what I would call hard work but I used to dig fence post holes in 100+ degree heat for 12 hours a day as a teen and that’s what I would consider hard. You want to see a lot of people working hard head over to your local farm and begin to realize how 99% of people will never work as a hard as farmer. Your next task will be to realize that even with working far more than others as a farmer you can still live a terrible life.

eternityforest 3y ago

But lots of people absolutely do still work hard. They go to the gym. Many people still want kids someday. They dream of living off grid on 40 acres. What they don't do is work hard for society, or actually at all. They work to prove or better themselves, IMHO largely because in modern culture, "based" is the new "cool", and society is not seen as based enough. People would rather be able to bench 220lbs, totally unpaid, with a huge amount of effort, than invent something that reduces data center energy consumption by a few percent and get a $20k bonus.

rooftop-1 3y ago
This sentiment you describe is probably more indicative of the distinct groups of people you hang out with. No one I know would be more interested in benching over making something actually useful. Also going to the gym isn’t what I would call hard work but I used to dig fence post holes in 100+ degree heat for 12 hours a day as a teen and that’s what I would consider hard. You want to see a lot of people working hard head over to your local farm and begin to realize how 99% of people will never work as a hard as farmer. Your next task will be to realize that even with working far more than others as a farmer you can still live a terrible life.