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Jail time. Violating the law should result in criminal prosecution. Back in the dark ages, I did a small amount of consulting work for the feds (not the FBI, b

Jail time. Violating the law should result in criminal prosecution. Back in the dark ages, I did a small amount of consulting work for the feds (not the FBI, but a similar agency). Total disregard for rules of evidence, or for legal processes. Shocking arrogance, including flashing badges at women in bars, to - I suppose - impress them. I never sought to work with them again...

vuln 3y ago
Just a bunch of unelected egotistical assholes with no regard for anything but themselves and their next promotion. Laws and Rights be damned.
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adrr 3y ago
What laws did they violate? And if they violated laws or the constitution, wouldn't people get out of criminal prosecution. Here's an example of US citizen who got their emails sweeped up by the PRISM because he was emailing addresses that were being 702ed. Court system found this was lawful. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/in-a-first-appeals-court-raises-privacy-questions-over-government-searches-for-americans-emails/2019/12/18/489d0400-21d6-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/in-a-first-...
- Amezarak 3y ago
  "conspiracy against rights" is a recently popular charge that would seem to apply
  - adrr 3y ago
    Judges ruled the government was lawful. That was an appeals court. Constitutionality is determined by the courts.
jstarfish 3y ago
> Total disregard for rules of evidence, or for legal processes. Shocking arrogance > Jail time. Violating the law should result in criminal prosecution. Addressing the failures of one corrupt institution by having them reviewed by...another one? The DoJ's track record is even more hilarious than the FBI's. Nobody's ever been wrongfully convicted, and those that might have been were immediately released and made whole once exonerating DNA evidence surfaced. Especially if the convicted has run out of appeals-- the DoJ is all about adherence to rules of evidence and legal process. /s
lost_tourist 3y ago
That will never happen. It exists in the same spectrum of "cover your ass" as qualified immunity. Only the absolute most egregious activities will ever be prosecuted.

vuln 3y ago

Just a bunch of unelected egotistical assholes with no regard for anything but themselves and their next promotion. Laws and Rights be damned.

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adrr 3y ago

What laws did they violate? And if they violated laws or the constitution, wouldn't people get out of criminal prosecution. Here's an example of US citizen who got their emails sweeped up by the PRISM because he was emailing addresses that were being 702ed. Court system found this was lawful. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/in-a-first-appeals-court-raises-privacy-questions-over-government-searches-for-americans-emails/2019/12/18/489d0400-21d6-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/in-a-first-...

Amezarak 3y ago
"conspiracy against rights" is a recently popular charge that would seem to apply
- adrr 3y ago
  Judges ruled the government was lawful. That was an appeals court. Constitutionality is determined by the courts.

jstarfish 3y ago

> Total disregard for rules of evidence, or for legal processes. Shocking arrogance > Jail time. Violating the law should result in criminal prosecution. Addressing the failures of one corrupt institution by having them reviewed by...another one? The DoJ's track record is even more hilarious than the FBI's. Nobody's ever been wrongfully convicted, and those that might have been were immediately released and made whole once exonerating DNA evidence surfaced. Especially if the convicted has run out of appeals-- the DoJ is all about adherence to rules of evidence and legal process. /s

lost_tourist 3y ago

That will never happen. It exists in the same spectrum of "cover your ass" as qualified immunity. Only the absolute most egregious activities will ever be prosecuted.