> In municipal gov especially. I wish. Although I guess this could be location dependent. But I think I know what you are talking about. I'm in Central Europe.

> In municipal gov especially. I wish. Although I guess this could be location dependent. But I think I know what you are talking about. I'm in Central Europe. Municipal workers are usually a bit better than workers in the private sphere. But people suck at their job, with almost no exception. They have no idea what they are doing, but if you point it out, than you will get burned. But of course, in the past decade or two the word "responsibility" has disappeared (or at least its meaning has changed significantly). As long as you do the very bare minimum, you will get a positive feedback, that reinforces that you are the master of not sucking (even though unfortunately it is not true). I stopped caring about what others are doing. I do pay attention to it, but ultimately I concentrate on my own work, so I can be proud of it. It took a long time learning doing this, and sometimes I still mess up. But ultimately I don't think that there is any other way. Unfortunately.