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There's studies on it destroying the gut flora that is continuously being ignored. Also sending "sweet" signals from the mouth can't be good in the long run, -

There's studies on it destroying the gut flora that is continuously being ignored. Also sending "sweet" signals from the mouth can't be good in the long run, - pretty sure it spikes insulin somewhat, and even if not we need to understand diet in a holistic way - if something is too good to be true, it probably is. That said i've consumed a lot of the stuff in my time and is not that worried.

karlkatzke 3y ago
There's a lot of other things I'm going to die from before I die from artificial sweeteners.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  A quip from Adam Eget on one of Norm Macdonald's podcasts: A lot of things would have to go very right for me to end up dying from too much salt.
- switchbak 3y ago
  That's an overly simplistic model. The factors leading to your demise are interrelated in a complex way. Diet (including sweeteners) can affect your weight and diabetes risk, which can affect a number of downstream morbidities (heart disease, kidney disease, cancer), any of which can be the one to take you out.
asyx 3y ago
There are millions of people with cgms that drink soda with artificial sweeteners that see no spike in their blood sugar. There are enough people in this world that would have to deal with serious health complications if aspartame caused BG spikes that we'd know for absolutely certain if it did. And we don't.
gdoug 3y ago
Destroying, or changing? I've read these articles in the past, and the wording is careful. Or has this changed recently?
BaseballPhysics 3y ago
> Also sending "sweet" signals from the mouth can't be good in the long run Well that's a bold statement based on nothing... > pretty sure it spikes insulin somewhat, Pretty sure "pretty sure" isn't the basis upon which to set health or food safety policy.
- ericfrazier 3y ago
  Funny enough their guesses are backed by recent studies.
  - lordlimecat 3y ago
    Funnily enough 'sweeteners' as a class are so diverse that any claim that 'recent studies' universally show a common effect can be thrown straight into the rubbish bin. Erithritol, Stevia, and Aspartame are all so wildly different that it is implausible they share a common mode of action.
return_to_monke 3y ago
How would it spike insulin, if it does not contain carbohydrates (or any micronutrient for that matter)?
NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
My psych seems to worry way more about sugar, caffeine, and blue light than she worries about harmful thoughts and habits. I managed to please her by switching to cases and cases of flavored sparkling water. It tastes pretty good. I don't enjoy drinking a lot of soda, but god, it's so ubiquitous, it's not easy to drink anything else. I mean, I usually choose iced tea instead, but a lot of times, if I go to a restaurant, I have a menu of crap where I choose the least harmful thing possible.

karlkatzke 3y ago

There's a lot of other things I'm going to die from before I die from artificial sweeteners.

SoftTalker 3y ago
A quip from Adam Eget on one of Norm Macdonald's podcasts: A lot of things would have to go very right for me to end up dying from too much salt.
switchbak 3y ago
That's an overly simplistic model. The factors leading to your demise are interrelated in a complex way. Diet (including sweeteners) can affect your weight and diabetes risk, which can affect a number of downstream morbidities (heart disease, kidney disease, cancer), any of which can be the one to take you out.

asyx 3y ago

There are millions of people with cgms that drink soda with artificial sweeteners that see no spike in their blood sugar. There are enough people in this world that would have to deal with serious health complications if aspartame caused BG spikes that we'd know for absolutely certain if it did. And we don't.

gdoug 3y ago

Destroying, or changing? I've read these articles in the past, and the wording is careful. Or has this changed recently?

BaseballPhysics 3y ago

> Also sending "sweet" signals from the mouth can't be good in the long run Well that's a bold statement based on nothing... > pretty sure it spikes insulin somewhat, Pretty sure "pretty sure" isn't the basis upon which to set health or food safety policy.

ericfrazier 3y ago
Funny enough their guesses are backed by recent studies.
- lordlimecat 3y ago
  Funnily enough 'sweeteners' as a class are so diverse that any claim that 'recent studies' universally show a common effect can be thrown straight into the rubbish bin. Erithritol, Stevia, and Aspartame are all so wildly different that it is implausible they share a common mode of action.

return_to_monke 3y ago

How would it spike insulin, if it does not contain carbohydrates (or any micronutrient for that matter)?

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

My psych seems to worry way more about sugar, caffeine, and blue light than she worries about harmful thoughts and habits. I managed to please her by switching to cases and cases of flavored sparkling water. It tastes pretty good. I don't enjoy drinking a lot of soda, but god, it's so ubiquitous, it's not easy to drink anything else. I mean, I usually choose iced tea instead, but a lot of times, if I go to a restaurant, I have a menu of crap where I choose the least harmful thing possible.