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here’s your counter-point. now the sample size is two. lived in a diverse, affluent, tech/corpo neighborhood, most neighbors ignored or were passive aggressiv

here’s your counter-point. now the sample size is two. lived in a diverse, affluent, tech/corpo neighborhood, most neighbors ignored or were passive aggressive - the kind where you know you aren’t being ignored because the behavior is too egregious to not be aware of the impact. you aren’t being ignored, you aren’t worth ignoring. lived in an older, affluent neighborhood. four neighbors that would likely be described as caucasian regardless of their names or backgrounds were nothing but kind, offering to help the first time we interacted. lived in an older, rural, poor neighborhood. most folks would stop and talk if you were outside, see how stuff is going. place was shit. some of the folks were gold. the issue isn’t the skin color, the wallet fullness, the religion, or the race. you can look any which way and be an asshole on the inside. you can have a lot or a lot of nothing, and be an asshole. affluence just let’s the asshole shine through a bit more. after all, the asshole deserves a lot, and the money is proof. larger cities develop these little bubbles of halfluence - starter mcmansions for the white collar “elite,” close to their cubicle farms or at least a fat internet pipe and a starbucks within uber. the environment is shit - these aren’t actually elites - so the individuals tend to act up in their burbclaves. established vs gentrified might be a better distinction. established doesn’t always mean affluent, but it does have a different sort of wealth.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
Yes I was using those as lazy shorthands to avoid litigating the exact definitions or having to account for all of the nuance elided by them. They're affiliations and trends, not geo-destiny. Historical immigrant enclaves specifically tend to be really interesting counterexamples, one way or another.
thewildginger 3y ago
Being Established not meaning specifically wealth, I like that
red-iron-pine 3y ago
> established vs gentrified might be a better distinction. established doesn’t always mean affluent, but it does have a different sort of wealth. long term residents vs. new blood. different motivations and world view, and playing different games. i'm in a well off 'burb next to a university, no one talks. lots of community leagues, posters about clubs, etc. but none of the neighbors interact. lots of renters, med students, et al, and they'll be gone in 3 years. previous neighborhood was a poorer downtown apartment neighborhood owned by old italian ladies. they didn't do management companies or automated rent transfers, they made a point to come around every month, both to collect, but also to check in. they genuinely cared about knowing people, and wanted us to talk to each other -- helped prevent things like break-ins and accidental fires, etc.

giraffe_lady 3y ago

Yes I was using those as lazy shorthands to avoid litigating the exact definitions or having to account for all of the nuance elided by them. They're affiliations and trends, not geo-destiny. Historical immigrant enclaves specifically tend to be really interesting counterexamples, one way or another.

thewildginger 3y ago

Being Established not meaning specifically wealth, I like that

red-iron-pine 3y ago

> established vs gentrified might be a better distinction. established doesn’t always mean affluent, but it does have a different sort of wealth. long term residents vs. new blood. different motivations and world view, and playing different games. i'm in a well off 'burb next to a university, no one talks. lots of community leagues, posters about clubs, etc. but none of the neighbors interact. lots of renters, med students, et al, and they'll be gone in 3 years. previous neighborhood was a poorer downtown apartment neighborhood owned by old italian ladies. they didn't do management companies or automated rent transfers, they made a point to come around every month, both to collect, but also to check in. they genuinely cared about knowing people, and wanted us to talk to each other -- helped prevent things like break-ins and accidental fires, etc.