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If most of microplastic is from tires, we could just ban cars and stick to trains.

lo_zamoyski 3y ago
If you ignore the entire way people live and how the world works, sure. But if you comprehend context and respect the complex relations of dependence that exist in the real world, you would aim for something more realistic, like pushing for some kind of alternative tire material and phasing out the old stuff once it becomes available.
- Euphorbium 3y ago
  I am completely fine with ignoring the way people live, if it is terrible. And cars were a horrible idea from the start. Time for them to go.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  The Netherlands shed its car dependence. A taller order for some places yes, but definitely both a possible and potentially a necessary one (for a variety of reasons, not just this one).
ChatGTP 3y ago
Cars are just a problem. Everything about them from the emissions they produce during manufacturing, the wasted space for parking, through to the tire dust, the noise, even electric cars are noisy enough, I'm currently living near a main road which is concrete and it's just insane how disruptive one car can be to our sleep. I don't think self-driving cars will improve much, lost of the problems are still going to exist, traffic, noise, reduced walk ability, lost of space for roads and parking... I will admit we own a car, but I really, really think before I turn the ignition. 9/10 I can use my bike and get some exercise or order online and just wait a day or two for something to arrive.
- jaclaz 3y ago
  I applaude to the use of the bicycle, but does the stuff you order online arrive to your place via Star Trek transporter like or is there a truck delivering it to your doorstep? The truck probably creates the same or more tire dust than your car. Now, if you had someone delivering your goods on foot or bicycle ...
  - Euphorbium 3y ago
    Delivery by camels or donkeys is the next uber.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      Snide , unimaginative comment and not how I feel at all. One delivery truck can take hundreds of cars off the road. Doesn’t that sound good ?
      - jaclaz 3y ago
        It depends. If you do your weekly grocery shopping online and you have it delivered at your home, it may save a few cars worth off the road. If you order five different small (readily available locally) items on Amazon and each of them is delivered to you by a different courier not so much.

If you ignore the entire way people live and how the world works, sure. But if you comprehend context and respect the complex relations of dependence that exist in the real world, you would aim for something more realistic, like pushing for some kind of alternative tire material and phasing out the old stuff once it becomes available.

Euphorbium 3y ago
I am completely fine with ignoring the way people live, if it is terrible. And cars were a horrible idea from the start. Time for them to go.
ethanbond 3y ago
The Netherlands shed its car dependence. A taller order for some places yes, but definitely both a possible and potentially a necessary one (for a variety of reasons, not just this one).

ChatGTP 3y ago

Cars are just a problem. Everything about them from the emissions they produce during manufacturing, the wasted space for parking, through to the tire dust, the noise, even electric cars are noisy enough, I'm currently living near a main road which is concrete and it's just insane how disruptive one car can be to our sleep. I don't think self-driving cars will improve much, lost of the problems are still going to exist, traffic, noise, reduced walk ability, lost of space for roads and parking... I will admit we own a car, but I really, really think before I turn the ignition. 9/10 I can use my bike and get some exercise or order online and just wait a day or two for something to arrive.

jaclaz 3y ago
I applaude to the use of the bicycle, but does the stuff you order online arrive to your place via Star Trek transporter like or is there a truck delivering it to your doorstep? The truck probably creates the same or more tire dust than your car. Now, if you had someone delivering your goods on foot or bicycle ...
- Euphorbium 3y ago
  Delivery by camels or donkeys is the next uber.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Snide , unimaginative comment and not how I feel at all. One delivery truck can take hundreds of cars off the road. Doesn’t that sound good ?
    - jaclaz 3y ago
      It depends. If you do your weekly grocery shopping online and you have it delivered at your home, it may save a few cars worth off the road. If you order five different small (readily available locally) items on Amazon and each of them is delivered to you by a different courier not so much.