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Is Finland now Eastern Europe? More like Kurwa management.
by yread 3y ago
Is Finland now Eastern Europe? More like Kurwa management.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoPoland is typically regarded as Central Europe.
- rcbdev 3y agoBy whom? Czechs (wholly western to Poland) are always called "Eastern Europeans" in contemporary media and or any place I have ever worked before.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoBy just about everyone in Poland, at least. Historically, “Eastern Europe” has been used as more of a derogatory signifier in places where it’s culturally acceptable to make jokes at the expense of Slavs, like in Germany or USA. Let’s not forget that Vienna is actually geographically further East than Prague, though I doubt many Austrians would be comfortable considering themselves Eastern European. Poland is pretty squarely in the middle of Europe by a number of metrics. If we’re talking about time zone, Poland uses Central European [Summer] Time. If we’re talking geographically, most of the claimants to the geographical midpoint of Europe are actually East of Poland. If we’re talking politically, then the midpoint of the European Union is said to be in Würzburg, which is only 470km South-West from the border with Poland. And we can hardly say that anything East of Würzburg is Eastern Europe, since that would include all of Austria.
- cf141q5325 3y ago>Historically, “Eastern Europe” has been used as more of a derogatory signifier in places where it’s culturally acceptable to make jokes at the expense of Slavs, like in Germany or USA. I am calling bullshit. It simply referenced the Soviet zone. Eastern Europe was everything behind the iron curtain, including Eastern Germany. Everything else was Western Europe, including countries in the North and South of Europe. edit: Its also worth mentioning that framing that geopolitical conflict as racist is highly oversimplistic and counterproductive. The only upside i can think of is signaling and the stakes are far too high for such selfish endeavors. Stuff is just complicated and geopolitical conflicts even more so.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y ago…And you're an authority on this topic are you?
- cf141q5325 3y agoAs one of the idiots living there yes, very much so. Calling the DDR Osteuropa can not be racist. I would however be happy to hear your qualification on this.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoIf that's all it takes to speak authoritatively on the topic, then, greetings from Poland. I for one wouldn't describe myself as an idiot. As you are a person who has previously shared Kremlin propaganda on this website, I have nothing more to say to you. Good day.
- cf141q5325 3y ago>I for one wouldn't describe myself as an idiot. That might be the problem and the reason for your unsupported overconfidence. And its no wonder given your unwillingness to consider different perspectives. You are welcome. edit: I would hope nobody sees that as a confirmation for the stereotype of Poles being racist. I see no reason to not suspect a Russian sock puppet and neither should you.
- watwut 3y agoCzechs do not call themselves Eastern Europe.
- rcbdev 3y agoThe countries Czech people migrate to do, though.
- kubanczyk 3y agoDo "the countries" want to live 30 years in the past, or do you? Dividing Europe primarily into western or eastern is utterly useless categorization, as of today. You might try to divide EU that way, and only EU. Classifying Czechs as closer to Russians than to Austrians does not have basis in today's economy, culture, geography, politics. It fits when you're considering a specific historical period or linguistics.
- thecyborganizer 3y agoIf you tell a Czech that they live in Eastern Europe, they will get very upset! They consider themselves to be in Central Europe. I learned this the hard way!
- _0ffh 3y agoDepends if you go for geographical location or the iron curtain east/west distinction, which is still used by many and culturally relevant.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoJust because it’s used, doesn’t make it valid. I don’t think the historical Iron Curtain is a useful means by which to make that distinction today. Unless you’re willing to proclaim to Berliners that you love being in Berlin despite it being in Eastern Europe. I think you would raise some eyebrows. Or fists.
- cf141q5325 3y agoYou can make the exact same argument for Russia and Turkey being European. This kind of vocabulary works through consensus about attached meaning. Usage determines validity. You can tell by there being no agreed upon geographic line on a map going through countries.