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The wages are too low. Without assistance, they'd probably commit suicide, so you're logic is based on a false binary. A job that doesn't earn a base level of d

The wages are too low. Without assistance, they'd probably commit suicide, so you're logic is based on a false binary. A job that doesn't earn a base level of dignity is not necessarily worth living for, so people give up. It's very simple.

lagniappe 3y ago
Which jobs are there that don't earn a base level of dignity?
- vkou 3y ago
  Lower-end service work in large, expensive cities. You aren't treated with dignity by the customers, by your boss, or by the size of your paychecks.
  - tristor 3y ago
    And where in Job Corps does it train you for lower-end service work in large, expensive cities? Most of the people going to Job Corps are not from large, expensive cities, and none of their centers are in large, expensive cities. The work they're training for is skilled blue collar work, all of which pays relatively decently and is not "low-end service work".
    - vkou 3y ago
      I was responding in a larger scope of jobs than what are offered in the JC program. I can't find much to grouse about its curriculum. I will say that it's a damn shame that it's not available for someone like a 40-year old who wants to get their life on track.
  - numbsafari 3y ago
    Yeah, it’s not just expensive cities. They don’t pay well in rural communities either.
tristor 3y ago
I don't know what you're on about. Job Corps teaches job skills that are very well paid, one of the people I know was trained as a welder, another as a machinist, and one in IT. Someone with a CCNA starts at around $60k/yr in my home town and can make more in bigger metros, and if they continue learning can be easily earning $100k/yr+. Welders make $30+/hr, more in large metros, which is also roughly $60k/yr. Machinists make around $22/hr starting out and can easily make $30+/hr with experience or in larger metro areas. You can go "the wages are too low" all you want, but coming from a dead-end shit town, with minimal life prospects and dropping out of high school to having a GED and training with certifications in a field that pays above the median single-earner income nationally is a pretty good deal. I think Job Corps is a good program, I also think a lot of people who go into Job Corps are doing it as a last-ditch effort but don't actually have any desire to take responsibility for themselves or actually work. Every single job that Job Corps trains for pays a fair wage in most markets. While it'll likely never make you rich, it is certainly well into the "base level of dignity" territory. Clearly the people I know aren't tempted to commit suicide, they're still investing as much time as they can when they're not wasting their life away playing World of Warcraft to scam government benefits, so.
- supazek 3y ago
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lagniappe 3y ago

Which jobs are there that don't earn a base level of dignity?

vkou 3y ago
Lower-end service work in large, expensive cities. You aren't treated with dignity by the customers, by your boss, or by the size of your paychecks.
- tristor 3y ago
  And where in Job Corps does it train you for lower-end service work in large, expensive cities? Most of the people going to Job Corps are not from large, expensive cities, and none of their centers are in large, expensive cities. The work they're training for is skilled blue collar work, all of which pays relatively decently and is not "low-end service work".
  - vkou 3y ago
    I was responding in a larger scope of jobs than what are offered in the JC program. I can't find much to grouse about its curriculum. I will say that it's a damn shame that it's not available for someone like a 40-year old who wants to get their life on track.
- numbsafari 3y ago
  Yeah, it’s not just expensive cities. They don’t pay well in rural communities either.

tristor 3y ago

I don't know what you're on about. Job Corps teaches job skills that are very well paid, one of the people I know was trained as a welder, another as a machinist, and one in IT. Someone with a CCNA starts at around $60k/yr in my home town and can make more in bigger metros, and if they continue learning can be easily earning $100k/yr+. Welders make $30+/hr, more in large metros, which is also roughly $60k/yr. Machinists make around $22/hr starting out and can easily make $30+/hr with experience or in larger metro areas. You can go "the wages are too low" all you want, but coming from a dead-end shit town, with minimal life prospects and dropping out of high school to having a GED and training with certifications in a field that pays above the median single-earner income nationally is a pretty good deal. I think Job Corps is a good program, I also think a lot of people who go into Job Corps are doing it as a last-ditch effort but don't actually have any desire to take responsibility for themselves or actually work. Every single job that Job Corps trains for pays a fair wage in most markets. While it'll likely never make you rich, it is certainly well into the "base level of dignity" territory. Clearly the people I know aren't tempted to commit suicide, they're still investing as much time as they can when they're not wasting their life away playing World of Warcraft to scam government benefits, so.

supazek 3y ago
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