Yeah true, scope creep is generally a bad one for startups. I have had a few great experiences where I’ve travelled to a customer with a few other dev/product

Yeah true, scope creep is generally a bad one for startups. I have had a few great experiences where I’ve travelled to a customer with a few other dev/product ppl, and for a few days we just iterate on features that have unclear scope, synching up with them for feedback once or twice per day. But it really only works because we’re right there with the customer, getting constant feedback, and the work is timeboxed instead of scopeboxed. For more normal cases, where you have to actually ship to get feedback, having a small, fixed scope for the work before you start is much better.