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In the report's keywords it mentions spinach. How much spinach is ok vs too much? Is this issue caused by consuming too much spinach or by consuming spinach in

In the report's keywords it mentions spinach. How much spinach is ok vs too much? Is this issue caused by consuming too much spinach or by consuming spinach in combination with specific foods found in green smoothies?

KaiserPro 3y ago
too much raw spinach, in combination with gastric bypass and prolonged antibiotic use. The bypass probably doesn't help because you are reducing the time exposed to acid/alkali. The antibiotic also kills off any bacteria that would absorb oxalates.
- gardenfelder 3y ago
  I would agree with that. A lot of research does talk about both antibiotics and gastric bypass surgery. But, that's only a part of the story. My research continues to uncover ways in which oxalates can cause mayhem. Just consider ordinary kidney stones. Calcium Oxalate. Oxalate damage is not limited to that,or to kidney failure through nephropathy. There is a medium.com piece by a fellow who had calcium oxalate crystals in his hearing canal. To get his hearing back, he had to go on a low oxalate diet. There's a pubmed on such situations [1] [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898392/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898392/
gardenfelder 3y ago
With oxalate nephropathy, I have an oxalate budget of 100/day - 2 oz of dark chocolate covers that. But then, if one is concerned, citrates provide a first-line defense,e.g. 4 oz of lemmon juice, or,say, calcium or potassium citrate. That doesn't stop things, but it helps. In your microbiome, oxalobacter formigenes is the primary defense. Lose that from, say, antibiotics or IBS, and you've got problems.
- gardenfelder 3y ago
  Let me build on that visit https://elicit.org/ https://elicit.org/ and type in a research question like "what causes oxalate nephropathy" and look at the results (elicit is free). That happens to be where I found the paper linked at the top.
- KMag 3y ago
  During COVID lockdown, working from home, I dramatically reduced my coffee intake while not replacing it with other liquid intake. I was literally drinking about 500 mL per day during lockdown. I also snacked on lots of almonds. When my son was born (still during lockdown), I literally did lots of running (jogging) around for various paperwork. 7 days after my son was born, I woke up, mentioned to my wife it felt a bit like I had been punched in the kidney the night before, and promptly found blood in my urine. Luckily, it turned out that I had a kidney stone, and apparently the jogging for paperwork shook it loose. (Cancer, kidney infection, kidney stones, and physical injury are the main causes of blood in urine.) Magnesium citrate is now my citrate of choice. It turns out I should drink at least 2 L of water per day.

KaiserPro 3y ago

too much raw spinach, in combination with gastric bypass and prolonged antibiotic use. The bypass probably doesn't help because you are reducing the time exposed to acid/alkali. The antibiotic also kills off any bacteria that would absorb oxalates.

gardenfelder 3y ago
I would agree with that. A lot of research does talk about both antibiotics and gastric bypass surgery. But, that's only a part of the story. My research continues to uncover ways in which oxalates can cause mayhem. Just consider ordinary kidney stones. Calcium Oxalate. Oxalate damage is not limited to that,or to kidney failure through nephropathy. There is a medium.com piece by a fellow who had calcium oxalate crystals in his hearing canal. To get his hearing back, he had to go on a low oxalate diet. There's a pubmed on such situations [1] [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898392/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898392/

gardenfelder 3y ago

With oxalate nephropathy, I have an oxalate budget of 100/day - 2 oz of dark chocolate covers that. But then, if one is concerned, citrates provide a first-line defense,e.g. 4 oz of lemmon juice, or,say, calcium or potassium citrate. That doesn't stop things, but it helps. In your microbiome, oxalobacter formigenes is the primary defense. Lose that from, say, antibiotics or IBS, and you've got problems.

gardenfelder 3y ago
Let me build on that visit https://elicit.org/ https://elicit.org/ and type in a research question like "what causes oxalate nephropathy" and look at the results (elicit is free). That happens to be where I found the paper linked at the top.
KMag 3y ago
During COVID lockdown, working from home, I dramatically reduced my coffee intake while not replacing it with other liquid intake. I was literally drinking about 500 mL per day during lockdown. I also snacked on lots of almonds. When my son was born (still during lockdown), I literally did lots of running (jogging) around for various paperwork. 7 days after my son was born, I woke up, mentioned to my wife it felt a bit like I had been punched in the kidney the night before, and promptly found blood in my urine. Luckily, it turned out that I had a kidney stone, and apparently the jogging for paperwork shook it loose. (Cancer, kidney infection, kidney stones, and physical injury are the main causes of blood in urine.) Magnesium citrate is now my citrate of choice. It turns out I should drink at least 2 L of water per day.