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I mean, not all the credit. She might be brilliant, but she's worked other space jobs before. So clearly whatever company Musk has created, has allowed her to
by tomp 3y ago
I mean, not all the credit.
She might be brilliant, but she's worked other space jobs before. So clearly whatever company Musk has created, has allowed her to actually showcase her brilliance.
CEO sets the vision. Without vision, even perfect execution is pointless.
- flaminHotSpeedo 3y ago"clearly" is doing so much heavy lifting for you it puts both starship and sls to shame... If you have evidence to support that takeaway I'd love to see it. I don't have evidence one way or the other, though I have seen unconfirmed scuttlebutt that SpaceX is successful _despite_ Musk, in no small part due to actively distracting and babysitting him to prevent him from meddling
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- cubefox 3y agoThat's complete nonsense. There is a lot of evidence that Musk makes all the important decisions (like switching Starship to steel) while Shotwell seems to handle mostly day-to-day business. Moreover, Shotwell has, as far as I know, not actually founded any successful companies, while Musk has.
- notfish 3y agoMusk is chief engineer - he makes engineering decisions at SpaceX and has a reputation for mostly making good ones
- martin8412 3y agoIt's a title he has given himself. You can give yourself whatever title you want when you own the company. Doesn't mean anything at all.
- panick21_ 3y agoOk so who was the chief engineer on the falcon 1? Look you are just doing what everybody does who dislikes Musk. The reality is we have overwhelming evidence from many sources who have actual knowlage on the topic. Of course that does matter because a friend friends uncle has a sister at SpaceX who said something about how Musk was bad or whatever.
- martin8412 3y agoIt's a title. It means fuck all. If you start a company, you can name yourself whatever. I'm the director of a company. In the concrete case, Musk has NO credentials for being a chief engineer. He's a bachelor of arts in physics. Ironically a bachelor of science in economics. His main talent is extracting subsidies from the US government.
- kidme5 3y agoMusk offered the Chief Engineer title to Michael D. Griffin who is discussed elsewhere in this hackernews post. That was mentioned in Liftoff. Griffin basically felt he could pull more strings in Washington.
- panick21_ 3y agoCredentials don't matter in the real world. The question is who does the job. And we have plenty of evidence that Musk does that job, weather you like it or not. > His main talent is extracting subsidies from the US government. That's just flat out inaccurate nonsense.
- BlackjackCF 3y agoThis. There’s something to be said about the fact that the other companies tied to Musk are constantly in the headlines for NEGATIVE reasons versus SpaceX… yeah. Tells you a lot.
- boxed 3y agoIt's funny how both Tesla and SpaceX are successful despite Musk. Or rather, it's funny how some anti-Musk people can still claim that. Yes Musk is a-hole. He has totally bungled Twitter, and he has made the entire world hate him. But let's give credit where credit is due. He has started not one but TWO "impossible" companies.
- alemanek 3y agoThree actually if you count PayPal. Everyone forgets he was a member of the “PayPal Mafia”
- goodbyesf 3y ago> CEO sets the vision. Without vision, even perfect execution is pointless. The chairman of the board on behalf of the shareholders sets the vision. The CEO along with the other C-suite executives executes the vision. But in this case, both the chairman, ceo, cto, founder and majority voting shareholder is elon musk. So you are ultimately right. You can tell the elon-hate has gone insane when they can't bring themselves to give elon any credit for spacex. Besides, even if gynne shotwell deserves all the credit for spacex's success, elon deserves credit for hiring her in the first place so elon wins again.