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You can try and further an ideological religion all you like, but I am family friends with a job corp director in a deep red state, they get everything they ask

You can try and further an ideological religion all you like, but I am family friends with a job corp director in a deep red state, they get everything they ask for from their state legislature.

ngai_aku 3y ago
… they’re not wrong though? Someone here [1] already linked to a WaPo article talking about Trumps efforts to kill it [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37167202 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37167202
- ForestCritter 3y ago
  Despite some success, job corps have a violent history and poor track record and rampant corruption. Look it up, it's not hard to find. They don't have a very good reputation in the job employment market either. Locally, the factories teach employees welding as does the community college trade program, the latter is not free but very attainable for all ages. There are much better and more efficient ways to train youth than free tax dollars out of somebody elses pocket.
  - ngai_aku 3y ago
    I never stated that job corps was the most efficient way to train youth. In fact, I never stated that I thought it was a worthy program at all. (I don't know enough about job corps to have an opinion worth sharing) The parent comment strongly rejected the idea that republican presidents were unlikely to support job corps, and I responded by sharing an article about our most recent republican president's attempts to kill the program. It's not that controversial
plagiarist 3y ago
Sometimes people write stuff like "ideological religion" about people who notice every single Repub voting against every infrastructure bill. Sometimes it turns out those same people disbelieve in vaccines and climate change, love the new X, and so on. It seems much more appropriate as a confession instead of an accusation.
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  Next time you can save a lot of words by just writing “no, u”. I’m not sure you know anything about me, but I sure appreciate the ad hominem accusation of being antivax and a climate change denier. Classy stuff there.
  - plagiarist 3y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37008034#37014276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37008034#37014276
    - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
      Ah, post history dig, the last refuge of someone that has absolutely nothing to say. So go ahead are you saying the climategate emails weren’t real?
      - plagiarist 3y ago
        So you do understand your use of "ideological religion" was ad hominem towards that person, and hypocritical besides, since you are a climate liar ignoring the facts of climate change due to your ideological religion.
rqtwteye 3y ago
In the US it's really important to separate rhetoric from what politicians really do. Unfortunately not many people do this and media mostly is about "he said/she said" without looking at substance.

You can try and further an ideological religion all you like, but I am family friends with a job corp director in a deep red state, they get everything they ask for from their state legislature.

ngai_aku 3y ago

… they’re not wrong though? Someone here [1] already linked to a WaPo article talking about Trumps efforts to kill it [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37167202 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37167202

ForestCritter 3y ago
Despite some success, job corps have a violent history and poor track record and rampant corruption. Look it up, it's not hard to find. They don't have a very good reputation in the job employment market either. Locally, the factories teach employees welding as does the community college trade program, the latter is not free but very attainable for all ages. There are much better and more efficient ways to train youth than free tax dollars out of somebody elses pocket.
- ngai_aku 3y ago
  I never stated that job corps was the most efficient way to train youth. In fact, I never stated that I thought it was a worthy program at all. (I don't know enough about job corps to have an opinion worth sharing) The parent comment strongly rejected the idea that republican presidents were unlikely to support job corps, and I responded by sharing an article about our most recent republican president's attempts to kill the program. It's not that controversial

plagiarist 3y ago

Sometimes people write stuff like "ideological religion" about people who notice every single Repub voting against every infrastructure bill. Sometimes it turns out those same people disbelieve in vaccines and climate change, love the new X, and so on. It seems much more appropriate as a confession instead of an accusation.

SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
Next time you can save a lot of words by just writing “no, u”. I’m not sure you know anything about me, but I sure appreciate the ad hominem accusation of being antivax and a climate change denier. Classy stuff there.
- plagiarist 3y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37008034#37014276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37008034#37014276
  - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
    Ah, post history dig, the last refuge of someone that has absolutely nothing to say. So go ahead are you saying the climategate emails weren’t real?
    - plagiarist 3y ago
      So you do understand your use of "ideological religion" was ad hominem towards that person, and hypocritical besides, since you are a climate liar ignoring the facts of climate change due to your ideological religion.

rqtwteye 3y ago

In the US it's really important to separate rhetoric from what politicians really do. Unfortunately not many people do this and media mostly is about "he said/she said" without looking at substance.