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If you think that all of the freshman that lived in the dorms went to every class, much less showed up on time for every class, I've got some beachfront propert

If you think that all of the freshman that lived in the dorms went to every class, much less showed up on time for every class, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you...

JohnFen 3y ago
Where did I say I thought that? Although most do, because of the supervision. The "party problem" doesn't really start until sophomore year. Unless you're in a frat or sorority. Those count as "dorms" for the requirement, and are notorious.
- eitally 3y ago
  Are you talking about a specific school, because there is almost 0 supervision (I would call what dorm RAs do as more "emergency oversight") and freshman absolutely party the same as upperclassmen & women. Also, you should know that many colleges & universities apply far greater oversight to frats & sororities these days than genpop, and many are dry.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    Yes, I was specifically talking about the university my children went to, because it's the only one I know anything about. > because there is almost 0 supervision (I would call what dorm RAs do as more "emergency oversight") and freshman absolutely party the same as upperclassmen & women. I know that there are schools where this is true. But I also know there is at least one school where this is certainly not true.
    - wholinator2 3y ago
      I have to add that every school I've been to, or known anyone from has had a sort-of freshman integration process for partying where the kids are driven to the houses and supplied with alcohol and encouraged to party and have sex. _Especially_ the women, it's actually incomparable. They are instantly picked over by the upperclassmen and delivered and encouraged to party every weekend of every semester. Sure they live in a dorm but everyone has a car and is very willing to give rides to others in exchange for not having to walk into a party alone. I've never heard of a University where the freshman were magically diligent and contained, though I've never been to a private school (if that's the type of school you're talking about). I don't mean to imply anything, but is it possible that your child may have not explained all the intricacies of their experience, perhaps to save you the trouble of worrying and them the trouble of you worrying? I certainly did not tell my parents anywhere near what actually happened, and i still have never. As far as my mom knew, i was a model child in university and in the dorm.
- SECProto 3y ago
  > Where did I say I thought that? It was in the comment you replied to, you only explicitly addressed the first part, but implicitly agreed with the latter as well: > how many 19-year-olds do you know who want to live in a dorm setting and show up on time?
- smeej 3y ago
  I went to a university where 90% of eligible students choose to live on campus every year they're allowed (some juniors are not allowed because of space issues). The school also has no fraternities or sororities. The vast, VAST majority of freshmen drink themselves stupid at least once per week, even in the dorms. But if your kids convinced you otherwise, props to them. You have actors or lawyers to look forward to!

If you think that all of the freshman that lived in the dorms went to every class, much less showed up on time for every class, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you...

JohnFen 3y ago

Where did I say I thought that? Although most do, because of the supervision. The "party problem" doesn't really start until sophomore year. Unless you're in a frat or sorority. Those count as "dorms" for the requirement, and are notorious.

eitally 3y ago
Are you talking about a specific school, because there is almost 0 supervision (I would call what dorm RAs do as more "emergency oversight") and freshman absolutely party the same as upperclassmen & women. Also, you should know that many colleges & universities apply far greater oversight to frats & sororities these days than genpop, and many are dry.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  Yes, I was specifically talking about the university my children went to, because it's the only one I know anything about. > because there is almost 0 supervision (I would call what dorm RAs do as more "emergency oversight") and freshman absolutely party the same as upperclassmen & women. I know that there are schools where this is true. But I also know there is at least one school where this is certainly not true.
  - wholinator2 3y ago
    I have to add that every school I've been to, or known anyone from has had a sort-of freshman integration process for partying where the kids are driven to the houses and supplied with alcohol and encouraged to party and have sex. _Especially_ the women, it's actually incomparable. They are instantly picked over by the upperclassmen and delivered and encouraged to party every weekend of every semester. Sure they live in a dorm but everyone has a car and is very willing to give rides to others in exchange for not having to walk into a party alone. I've never heard of a University where the freshman were magically diligent and contained, though I've never been to a private school (if that's the type of school you're talking about). I don't mean to imply anything, but is it possible that your child may have not explained all the intricacies of their experience, perhaps to save you the trouble of worrying and them the trouble of you worrying? I certainly did not tell my parents anywhere near what actually happened, and i still have never. As far as my mom knew, i was a model child in university and in the dorm.
SECProto 3y ago
> Where did I say I thought that? It was in the comment you replied to, you only explicitly addressed the first part, but implicitly agreed with the latter as well: > how many 19-year-olds do you know who want to live in a dorm setting and show up on time?
smeej 3y ago
I went to a university where 90% of eligible students choose to live on campus every year they're allowed (some juniors are not allowed because of space issues). The school also has no fraternities or sororities. The vast, VAST majority of freshmen drink themselves stupid at least once per week, even in the dorms. But if your kids convinced you otherwise, props to them. You have actors or lawyers to look forward to!