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I have to say, the "What is Job Corp?" page does not directly answer the question at all. It sounds like some kind of school? Do students pay tuition? Is it fr

I have to say, the "What is Job Corp?" page does not directly answer the question at all. It sounds like some kind of school? Do students pay tuition? Is it free? What do they learn? How long does it take? Where is it?

pkaye 3y ago
Its basically vocational training. It doesn't cost anything. Must be 16-24 and meet low income criteria. Its been around since 1964. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Corps
jetbalsa 3y ago
I attended this program about 10 years ago. To answer your questions, It is a school, they pay the student a stipend and lots of other benefits. the courses are mostly "blue collar" related job training. So thing like Welding, Brick Laying, Computer Repair. You will find most of their courses are targeting job sectors that are in need of people. they also house you for the entire time and is a rather good program to get into.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Do you know if they have any partnership or work with foster homes to give foster kids a solid path into adulthood?
  - jetbalsa 3y ago
    So once you join you are housed in a dorm on campus. Once you start to leave they will help you find a job, a home and give you starting money. You will not leave the campus until all of this is done. Once you are out on your own, You can rejoin Job Corps if you are still under aged and do a different program and get all the same benefits
  - thecyborganizer 3y ago
    I don't know if they have explicit partnerships, but it's certainly a program that case workers in the foster care system are aware of. My foster daughter's case worker explored it with her as one of a range of options after high school. (She ended up just getting a regular job instead.) I'd be really curious to know how it works out for former foster youth who try it. On the one hand I can imagine the structure and support to be really valuable to kids who have been in the foster care system. On the other hand foster youth often benefit most from systems that can give them lots of second chances and can work with them to meet their individual needs, and I don't know if that's something Job Corps can offer.
  - dv35z 3y ago
    You may be interested in ASMBLY Makerspace in Austin, which has a scholarship program to help foster kids / teens get skills that can help them transition into adulthood and get great jobs: https://asmbly.org/new-maker-scholarship-program/ https://asmbly.org/new-maker-scholarship-program/
- Jemm 3y ago
  Computer repair is now considered a blue collar job?
  - throwawaysleep 3y ago
    I would certainly consider Geek Squad blue collar type work.
    - jameson71 3y ago
      Between this and CNC it is amazing how highly technical and how high the education requirements can be for “blue collar” work
      - JohnFen 3y ago
        Indeed! Have you look at what's needed to be good at car repair lately? Most blue collar work has always been technical and required a fairly high level of education. The educational path has historically been different (apprenticeships, trade schools, etc), but no less rigorous.
      - datavirtue 3y ago
        You can scratch by, get your certs, and stand by a machine for ten hours a day, six days a week. Or you can really apply yourself and focus on attaining SOME engineering-level skills and end up indespensible (usually given a part and asked to make it by coming up with a program, as opposed to working from print or existing process). You can be a glorified monkey or you can make yourself into an engineer. Up to you.
      - datavirtue 3y ago
        Yep. On top of that you better be fast and generally mistake-free or you will be broke. Oh yeah, don't rock the boat either. You have to accept the level of personal safety (gear/practices) that everyone else has accepted--or you are out the door.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I've always thought of it as such... but it probably falls into that borderline between the two.
mike_d 3y ago
It is a US government program that provides housing, food, and an allowance to people 18-25 that are willing to attend a JobCorps trade school. Basically an alternative to joining the military if you are disadvantaged and want to learn a skill and build a career.
alaskamiller 3y ago
The website reads fine, there's even three FAQs to answer your questions at the bottom of the page you referenced. Job Corps is a training program for 16-24 year olds as an alternative or supplement to high school or college. Your first touch to this would typically be your high school guidance counselor. Your second touch might be your community college counselor. Your other pathway might be through your parole officer. It's free. It's listed multiple times on the website. They learn welding, manufacturing, automative tech, construction, hospitality, healthcare, and the best one is probably forestry. It's listed multiple places on the website. How long is typically 1 to 3 year stints. Job Corps centers are located in almost every major city in almost every state. It's a government program since the 1960's. There's an entire program finder on the website.
- dnadler 3y ago
  Thanks for the information. It sounds like an interesting program. The FAQ you mention does do a good job of answering these questions. I wish that was more front and center instead of at the very bottom of the footer. My comment was more about the fact that the "What Is Job Corps" page is very much a marketing page, and I think it leans too heavily in that direction. I bounced off it pretty hard because it's quite busy and clearly trying to sell me something. That's a red flag for me when I'm looking at education programs. I had to do a triple take to make sure this was actually a federal program and not a scam.
  - LesZedCB 3y ago
    can scams even get .gov tlds?
    - caturopath 3y ago
      congress.gov seems to exist
  - ry4nolson 3y ago
    you didn't see the .gov in the domain name?
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PeterCorless 3y ago
The program is not only entirely free, it can actually pay the students (this was 2011; YMMV): Job Corps Living Allowance and Transition Payment The living allowance (i.e., pay) is based on stay duration (e.g., up to 56 days is $25/pay period or two weeks, 57-112 days is $30/pay period, 113-182 is $40/pay period and 183+ days at $50/pay period). A transition payment occurs when the student successfully completes a High School Diploma/GED and/or a career and technical certificate. Students receive $250 for HSD/GED, $750 for CTE or $1,200 for completing both. Source: https://www.mtctrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Job-Corps-Changing-Lives-Building-Futures.pdf https://www.mtctrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Job-Cor...
- ForestCritter 3y ago
  Yes and in some locations you can get mugged on pay day by fellow students.

pkaye 3y ago

Its basically vocational training. It doesn't cost anything. Must be 16-24 and meet low income criteria. Its been around since 1964. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Corps

jetbalsa 3y ago

I attended this program about 10 years ago. To answer your questions, It is a school, they pay the student a stipend and lots of other benefits. the courses are mostly "blue collar" related job training. So thing like Welding, Brick Laying, Computer Repair. You will find most of their courses are targeting job sectors that are in need of people. they also house you for the entire time and is a rather good program to get into.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Do you know if they have any partnership or work with foster homes to give foster kids a solid path into adulthood?
- jetbalsa 3y ago
  So once you join you are housed in a dorm on campus. Once you start to leave they will help you find a job, a home and give you starting money. You will not leave the campus until all of this is done. Once you are out on your own, You can rejoin Job Corps if you are still under aged and do a different program and get all the same benefits
- thecyborganizer 3y ago
  I don't know if they have explicit partnerships, but it's certainly a program that case workers in the foster care system are aware of. My foster daughter's case worker explored it with her as one of a range of options after high school. (She ended up just getting a regular job instead.) I'd be really curious to know how it works out for former foster youth who try it. On the one hand I can imagine the structure and support to be really valuable to kids who have been in the foster care system. On the other hand foster youth often benefit most from systems that can give them lots of second chances and can work with them to meet their individual needs, and I don't know if that's something Job Corps can offer.
- dv35z 3y ago
  You may be interested in ASMBLY Makerspace in Austin, which has a scholarship program to help foster kids / teens get skills that can help them transition into adulthood and get great jobs: https://asmbly.org/new-maker-scholarship-program/ https://asmbly.org/new-maker-scholarship-program/
Jemm 3y ago
Computer repair is now considered a blue collar job?
- throwawaysleep 3y ago
  I would certainly consider Geek Squad blue collar type work.
  - jameson71 3y ago
    Between this and CNC it is amazing how highly technical and how high the education requirements can be for “blue collar” work
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      Indeed! Have you look at what's needed to be good at car repair lately? Most blue collar work has always been technical and required a fairly high level of education. The educational path has historically been different (apprenticeships, trade schools, etc), but no less rigorous.
    - datavirtue 3y ago
      You can scratch by, get your certs, and stand by a machine for ten hours a day, six days a week. Or you can really apply yourself and focus on attaining SOME engineering-level skills and end up indespensible (usually given a part and asked to make it by coming up with a program, as opposed to working from print or existing process). You can be a glorified monkey or you can make yourself into an engineer. Up to you.
    - datavirtue 3y ago
      Yep. On top of that you better be fast and generally mistake-free or you will be broke. Oh yeah, don't rock the boat either. You have to accept the level of personal safety (gear/practices) that everyone else has accepted--or you are out the door.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  I've always thought of it as such... but it probably falls into that borderline between the two.

mike_d 3y ago

It is a US government program that provides housing, food, and an allowance to people 18-25 that are willing to attend a JobCorps trade school. Basically an alternative to joining the military if you are disadvantaged and want to learn a skill and build a career.

alaskamiller 3y ago

The website reads fine, there's even three FAQs to answer your questions at the bottom of the page you referenced. Job Corps is a training program for 16-24 year olds as an alternative or supplement to high school or college. Your first touch to this would typically be your high school guidance counselor. Your second touch might be your community college counselor. Your other pathway might be through your parole officer. It's free. It's listed multiple times on the website. They learn welding, manufacturing, automative tech, construction, hospitality, healthcare, and the best one is probably forestry. It's listed multiple places on the website. How long is typically 1 to 3 year stints. Job Corps centers are located in almost every major city in almost every state. It's a government program since the 1960's. There's an entire program finder on the website.

dnadler 3y ago
Thanks for the information. It sounds like an interesting program. The FAQ you mention does do a good job of answering these questions. I wish that was more front and center instead of at the very bottom of the footer. My comment was more about the fact that the "What Is Job Corps" page is very much a marketing page, and I think it leans too heavily in that direction. I bounced off it pretty hard because it's quite busy and clearly trying to sell me something. That's a red flag for me when I'm looking at education programs. I had to do a triple take to make sure this was actually a federal program and not a scam.
- LesZedCB 3y ago
  can scams even get .gov tlds?
  - caturopath 3y ago
    congress.gov seems to exist
- ry4nolson 3y ago
  you didn't see the .gov in the domain name?

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PeterCorless 3y ago

The program is not only entirely free, it can actually pay the students (this was 2011; YMMV): Job Corps Living Allowance and Transition Payment The living allowance (i.e., pay) is based on stay duration (e.g., up to 56 days is $25/pay period or two weeks, 57-112 days is $30/pay period, 113-182 is $40/pay period and 183+ days at $50/pay period). A transition payment occurs when the student successfully completes a High School Diploma/GED and/or a career and technical certificate. Students receive $250 for HSD/GED, $750 for CTE or $1,200 for completing both. Source: https://www.mtctrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Job-Corps-Changing-Lives-Building-Futures.pdf https://www.mtctrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Job-Cor...

ForestCritter 3y ago
Yes and in some locations you can get mugged on pay day by fellow students.