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I quite like Win10 actually. It was what got me to finally switch off 7. 11 I hated, until it fixed its weird breakages and compatibility issues. And of cour

by RajT88 3y ago

I quite like Win10 actually. It was what got me to finally switch off 7. 11 I hated, until it fixed its weird breakages and compatibility issues. And of course after switching everything around to look and function just like 10. But Windows apps (let's be clear this is more an app problem than an OS problem) are filled with dumb shit like this. I have had many app performance issues where ProcMon shows a high number of IO operations against files, folders, registry, etc. Part of this is due to Windows Installer advertisement, which can inject this behavior into an application! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/msi/platform-support-of-advertisement https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/msi/platform... (How does this happen? When an advertised entrypoint is invoked - shortcut, COM interface, file extension association, a few other things), there's 'Darwin Code' injected into the registry which causes an evaluation of *.msi packages installed which have that advertised entrypoint registered. It checks to see if any components are broken by checking the keypaths (keypaths could be files, folders, registry entries). If you have an application invoking COM Interfaces many times a second, it's going to inject a bunch of IO ops to each time check all the components installed. I've seen apps when repackaged from an *.exe install into an *.msi slow down to a crawl (until you rebuild them with self-registration instead of using the MSI advertised tables).

mrguyorama 3y ago
It's also because Windows after 8ish seem to just assume everyone has an SSD and small file ops are "fast enough" to not care about and sure just throw blocking IO into the hot loop nobody cares. NTFS isn't even fast on many small file IOPs but MS don't care, because all their machines have big SSDs and they fired their QA anyway. What are you going to do, install linux? Then you get to enjoy your package manager deleting your windowing environment when you try to install Steam because of some stupid overlooked thing. You can't even click a single button to roll back your install to a previous known good condition, like Windows has had since like 2000.
- RajT88 3y ago
  > It's also because Windows after 8ish seem to just assume everyone has an SSD and small file ops are "fast enough" to not care about and sure just throw blocking IO into the hot loop nobody cares. I haven't had this issue, strangely. These days all my OS's are on SSD's though. But that was not the case when I first moved over to Win10 for my gaming PC and work both. The shenanigans with windows updates though... I am convinced that there's something in the OS to intentionally cause strange behavior when updates are pending as a way of incentivizing you to reboot. This didn't used to happen. I haven't yet made the time to properly study it, because it's always at a moment where I have more important things to do.
- ankurdhama 3y ago
  > You can't even click a single button to roll back your install to a previous known good condition, like Windows has had since like 2000. You can, just use an immutable distro like Fedora Silverblue.

by RajT88 3y ago

mrguyorama 3y ago

It's also because Windows after 8ish seem to just assume everyone has an SSD and small file ops are "fast enough" to not care about and sure just throw blocking IO into the hot loop nobody cares. NTFS isn't even fast on many small file IOPs but MS don't care, because all their machines have big SSDs and they fired their QA anyway. What are you going to do, install linux? Then you get to enjoy your package manager deleting your windowing environment when you try to install Steam because of some stupid overlooked thing. You can't even click a single button to roll back your install to a previous known good condition, like Windows has had since like 2000.

RajT88 3y ago
> It's also because Windows after 8ish seem to just assume everyone has an SSD and small file ops are "fast enough" to not care about and sure just throw blocking IO into the hot loop nobody cares. I haven't had this issue, strangely. These days all my OS's are on SSD's though. But that was not the case when I first moved over to Win10 for my gaming PC and work both. The shenanigans with windows updates though... I am convinced that there's something in the OS to intentionally cause strange behavior when updates are pending as a way of incentivizing you to reboot. This didn't used to happen. I haven't yet made the time to properly study it, because it's always at a moment where I have more important things to do.
ankurdhama 3y ago
> You can't even click a single button to roll back your install to a previous known good condition, like Windows has had since like 2000. You can, just use an immutable distro like Fedora Silverblue.